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I was looking at reddit today, and the front-page felt like nothing happened. I scrolled and scrolled and scrolled and clicked into comments. Everything is popping off buzzing with activity. All the subreddits I was subscribed to that went dark are now back up and business as usual.

I knew we were a minority, but I didn't expect this level of apathy. It feels like Spez was 100% right and this did in fact blow over. What's your take on it it? I didn't expect Reddit to immediately be a failure, but man I guess I expected a bigger impact than that.

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A new study shows that LLM models that are fed too much content that was generated by LLMs eventually collapse. Essentially, text generated by AI is poison if it makes its way into an LLMs training data. If the model eats too much of this poison, the model dies. By replacing your Reddit comments with AI generated text, you can effectively increase the toxicity of Reddit's dataset, and thereby decrease its value to firms training new LLMs. This will probably happen naturally anyway as spam bots and so forth continue taking over Reddit, but if you want to go out in a petty way, this is a good option.

I linked the actual study, but I first read about this on Platformer, where he was writing more broadly about how the AI is filing up the web with synthetic content and the problems that is causing. He was using this study to point out that it will be increasingly hard for developers to find good content for the LLMs to train on due to there being so much AI generated content, and the risk of the LLMs consuming too much AI content. Here is what he wrote:

A second, more worrisome study comes from researchers at the University of Oxford, University of Cambridge, University of Toronto, and Imperial College London. It found that training AI systems on data generated by other AI systems — synthetic data, to use the industry’s term — causes models to degrade and ultimately collapse.

While the decay can be managed by using synthetic data sparingly, researchers write, the idea that models can be “poisoned” by feeding them their own outputs raises real risks for the web.

And that’s a problem, because — to bring together the threads of today’s newsletter so far — AI output is spreading to encompass more of the web every day.

“The obvious larger question,” Clark writes, “is what this does to competition among AI developers as the internet fills up with a greater percentage of generated versus real content.”

When tech companies were building the first chatbots, they could be certain that the vast majority of the data they were scraping was human-generated. Going forward, though, they’ll be ever less certain of that — and until they figure out reliable ways to identify chatbot-generated text, they’re at risk of breaking their own models.

Even the study's abstract doesn't make a lot of sense to me, so here is an AI generated ELI5 (I am fully aware of the irony):

This paper is about how computers learn to write like humans. They use a lot of text from the internet to learn how to write. But if they use too much text that they wrote themselves, they start to forget how humans write. This is bad because we want computers to write like humans. So we need to make sure that computers learn from humans and not just from other computers.

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For those looking to buy the "Goodbye Apollo" wallpaper set, but not on iOS, you can now buy it online! Includes phone, tablet, and desktop wallpaper sizes! It's a beautiful way to support Apollo and get 20+ amazingly designed wallpapers. 💙🎉 https://christianselig.gumroad.com/l/goodbye-wallpapers

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This is a great idea. Let's get as many one-star reviews up there as we can!

How low can you go-oo-oo-oo

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API Madness (timemachiner.substack.com)
 
 

Reddit's downfall is, shocker, Greed and Stupidity

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Protests on the social platform have entered a new phase, with users shirking the platform’s NSFW content rules en masse. The development has some media buyers on high alert, experts say.

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Reddit protest by its community moderators has impacted user engagements, traffic and visits to its ad portal since its beginning on June 12.

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Trying to migrate to kbin, but have several small questions after using it for some minutes now.
Can anyone please expain how to ask simple questions within this magazine, like:

How can I ask questions here without posting a new link, photo, article or video?

Questions like:

  • How can I add magazines to my favourites?
  • How can I search a specific magazine (like RedditMigration for those quesions I have...)?

Finally:

  • Is there a more extensive user guide than kbin's user guide on Github?

#RedditMigration

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I am filled with a sadness at losing Apollo but it will always amuse me that searching reddit showed the apollo app.

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Can anyone explain to me what a Microblog is and how is it different from a thread? Are they similar to what a Toot is on Mastodon?

#RedditMigration

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While the technology shows promise, early testers have found that it falls short of a well-known search trick: adding "reddit" to the end of queries. Instead of directing readers to sites targeting SEO traffic, this straightforward technique draws on the knowledge of Reddit's community to provide actual help from forum discussions.

The ripple effect of the protest is really showing despite of how some may call it useless. It hurts to see the only source I trust to get good info and reviews from falling apart like this, but nothing lasts forever I guess.

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most of the time you'll be talking to a bot there without even realizing. they're gonna feed you products and ads interwoven into conversations, and the AI can be controlled so its output reflects corporate interests. advertisers are gonna be able to buy access and run campaigns. based on their input, the AI can generate thousands of comments and posts, all to support your corporate agenda.

for example you can set it to hate a public figure and force negative commentary into conversations all over the site. you can set it to praise and recommend your latest product. like when a pharma company has a new pill out, they'll be able to target self-help subs and flood them with fake anecdotes and user testimony that the new pill solves all your problems and you should check it out.

the only real humans you'll find there are the shills that run the place, and the poor suckers that fall for the scam.

it's gonna be a shithole.

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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by gnarly@lemmy.world to c/RedditMigration@kbin.social
 
 

My Spez comic is currently #3 on /r/funny and hoping the morning US crowd sends it up again. Thanks for all the support, I know this final comic is a bit spicy but here's the full rez if you didn't want to go to reddit to see it. I'm just glad my little Lemmy plug on the bottom is getting some attention. Take care everyone!

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I don't know where to share/promote new communities, exactly, but if there are any musicians moving over from Reddit, feel free to come share what you're making/what you've made.

I'd really prefer not to be the only person posting!

https://kbin.social/m/ShareYourMusic

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The next 2 weeks...any predictions/bets on what it will be then?

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This Apollo inspired Lemmy website can be installed as a webapp on any phone, and it works flawlessly and has a beautiful design. Currently, it's the best Lemmy app. I highly recommend it.

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Does federation have a bit of a learning curve? No doubt.

Is Lemmy buggy as heck? Absolutely.

But I don’t think that really justifies a lot of the comments I’m seeing in Reddit alternatives threads that it’s hard to figure out. The front page feed and sort options are very similar to Reddit. Searching for same-instance communities is not too difficult. Posting, commenting, and voting are all quite intuitive. What’s the problem?

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I was standing on the street today when a man and woman passed me. The man was heatedly explaining to the woman about the reddit strike. I overheard him say "It's the third largest subreddit...." and he was making hand gestures I could see as they walked past. (Which one is the third largest?)

I was half a mind to run after him and say "I want to talk to you about this! I understand!!" But I couldn't think of what would happen next, other than ruining their evening. They seemed to be on their way to go somewhere. Hopefully to talk about something other than reddit.

That's all. I usually never have IRL observations of reddit.

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From the site:

RIF going away song for June 2023: Jay Park - Yesterday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATuP6CE0vxM

A message Thank you everyone for your support since 2009.

Thank you to /u/anon_smithsonian in particular for taking care of everyone on /r/redditisfun.

RIF, you’re quirky and rough around the edges, but you’ve always gotten the job done. You know how to get out of the way and show people the articles, discussions, pictures, and videos they came for.

You have the silliest name, but we love you all the more for it. RIF will always be fun in our hearts.

RIF has been so much of my life.

I’m honored that so many of you have felt the same way.

Thank you for sharing this journey with me. It’s been fun.

(This space will be updated on July 1.)

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Hey Kbin-folk, I’ve recently published my take on the “threadiverse” in the form of a quasi-guide but with some other commentary. Appreciate any feedback, good or bad!

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Here’s the message shown in the screenshot behind the link:

Dear BaconReader users,

We wanted to inform you with a heavy heart that, starting from July 1, 2023, BaconReader will be unable to function due to the recent API changes made by Reddit.

If you have any questions or would like to share your thoughts, we warmly invite you to visit r/baconreader, where our community continues to thrive.

We cannot express enough gratitude for your unwavering support throughout the incredible journey of the past 12 years. It has been an absolute privilege and honor to serve you.

With heartfelt appreciation,
The BaconReader Team ❤️

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