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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago (7 children)

There are big problems with 10 commandments.

  1. Yahweh, god of Israelites, was son of El. Yahweh saying there is no god above me is a coup.
  2. "Though shalt not covet" was specifically a directive against coveting the idols of Canaanites/Phonetians instead of destroying them.

Both of those are an Israelite coup to go forth and murder non Israelites. Unclear why El would hate idolatry. Many references to Canaanite gods in bible, and Canaanites are the descendants of one of Noah's grandsons.

I guess its just an open source religion where you can fork off at any point.

[–] jameseb@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That interpretation of the commandment against coveting seems very unlikely. Exodus 20:17 says:

“You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his male servant, or his female servant, or his ox, or his donkey, or anything that is your neighbor's."

Nothing there mentions idols, and given the references to wives, servants and houses, it seems particularly unlikely that it is specifically referring to idols.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thou_shalt_not_covet

The images of their gods you're to burn in the fire. Don't covet the silver and gold on them, and don't take it for yourselves, or you'll be ensnared by it, for it's detestable to the LORD your God. Don't bring a detestable thing into your house or you, like it, will be set apart for destruction. Utterly abhor and detest it, for it's set apart for destruction.

-- Deuternonmy

I think this is the more specific "author" of 10 commandments

[–] jameseb@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

Certainly there are commands not to covet the idols of the nations, but the verses you quoted come from Deuteronomy 7:25-26, where the context is giving instructions for when the Israelites enter the land, rather than commentary on the 10th commandment. If anything, it is more an application of the 1st and 2nd commandments. The account of the 10 commandments in Deuteronomy appears earlier, in 5:6-21, where Moses is quoting the commandments given in Exodus 20:1-17 by way of reminder to the new generation that is about to enter the promised land without him. The command not to covet is generally understood as having broader application than just not coveting idols.

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