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Summary

  • Nissan's pride and denial hindered merger talks, sources say
  • Honda pushed Nissan for deeper cuts to jobs, factory capacity, sources say
  • Nissan unwilling to consider factory closures, sources say
  • Honda's proposal to make Nissan a subsidiary caused tensions, sources say
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[–] weew@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 week ago (17 children)

Nissan could have been better positioned for EV but they didn't bother actually doing anything with the Leaf for a decade.

Kinda like how they could have been a high performance brand with the GTR if they bothered to actually do any more development on it for the past decade.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 1 week ago (16 children)

The leaf was an objectively terrible Eevee that probably set the industry back a few years.

Autocorrect changed it to Eevee and I think it works.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 week ago (14 children)

Disagree, they are exactly the type of EV we should be building: inexpensive, enough range for around town, pretty dependable. The first couple model years had crappy range, but the later ones were fine.

What Nissan needed was to expand the EV product line. Ideas:

  • make the Leaf cheaper - 150 mile range, look into cheaper chemistries; should be the cheapest EV on the road; prize prioritize reliability and cost
  • make a sports car that you want to drive - this is your flagship - prioritize speed and style
  • make something in between the two (fast, but also practical) - what most people will get; compete directly with Model 3

Don't compete on range at all, that's R&D you don't want to deal with. Just make great cars for urban and suburban use.

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They weren't dependable is the problem. There were a lot of problems with early deterioration of the battery, supposedly from not having very good temperature control on the battery pack.

Sure, and battery deterioration is largely only a problem if you don't have much range to begin with. They put larger batteries in after a year or two, which largely solved the problem for the intended use case: around town car.

But that's also why I mentioned reliability and price should be the focus. They're not going to be leading R&D on better battery range, so they might as well focus on a niche.

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