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The judge threatened to sanction the IG lawyers if they didn't immediately rescind the request for an emergency hearing because she's so busy with other cases caused by Trump.

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[–] ryper@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 week ago (25 children)

The inspectors general in this case had argued that a judge’s order this week to temporarily reinstate another government watchdog — Hampton Dellinger, the head of the Office of Special Counsel — while that court challenge progresses had supported their own request to have the inspectors general immediately reinstated while their case proceeds.

But Reyes deemed that argument flimsy and scolded the plaintiffs for making it. Dellinger, Reyes said, leads an independent agency, and Trump needs a strong reason to remove him. In comparison, Reyes said, Trump needs only to provide Congress with 30 days’ notice and a written explanation to remove an inspector general. She added that even if she had immediately reinstated the watchdogs Friday, the president could simply move to have them fired again after 30 days.

So the IGs didn't make a strong argument...

In particular, Reyes admonished the plaintiffs for waiting 21 days after the inspectors general were fired to request a temporary restraining order, an emergency motion that requires the court to move immediately to hear the case because the matter is so urgent.

Using the legal parlance for a temporary restraining order, she continued, “Are we really here right now on the sixth hearing of this day for me to decide whether to grant a TRO given the circumstances that you guys could not even bother filing a TRO for 21 days?”

And they waited 3 weeks to do it. The judge making them take the slower route seems reasonable.

[–] minnow@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (6 children)

So putting a stop, even temporarily, to plainly illegal actions by government official(s) is unreasonable if the illegal actions aren't illegal enough? And "illegal enough" doesn't include "taking one of the biggest ever steps to remove one of the largest barriers to corruption"

And that's... Reasonable?

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

The judge hasn't yet decided whether the actions are illegal. If they are, then they will ultimately be put to a stop.

But for now, the question at hand is whether there is an emergency. That is a completely separate from whether the actions are illegal.

And if you wait three weeks to declare an emergency, then it's not an emergency.

[–] minnow@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In comparison, Reyes said, Trump needs only to provide Congress with 30 days’ notice and a written explanation to remove an inspector general.

She cites the legal procedure in her comments declining the motion. If that's not an acknowledgement of the illegality of what happened instead, what is?

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Everyone agrees IGs can be removed after 30 days notice.

The legal question is whether in some cases they can be removed without 30 days notice. Team Trump argues they can, the IGs argue the only way they can be removed is with 30 days notice.

The judge has to decide who's right. Probably the IGs, but at this point it's too late to reinstate them. So instead the IGs will have to argue for money damages.

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