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No bad breeds, only bad owners (sh.itjust.works)

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[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 57 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (54 children)

Any dog can snap. So why do we see proportionally more news stories about it happening with a pitbull...?

EDIT 2: So. Many. Downvotes. But not a single comment refuting the statistics with facts and evidence... You're not flat-earthers, right? So don't act like them. Use your brain, not your feeeelings! I love dogs. All dogs. And yeah, if my dog was a Pittie, I would be defensive too, but I would also be honest that people need to take extra precautions...

EDIT: You're literally arguing against facts.

https://www.xinsurance.com/blog/dog-breeds-most-likely-to-bite/#%3A%7E%3Atext=1.%2Csevere+injuries+than+other+dogs.

[+] atempuser23@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

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[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl -2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

EDIT: Sorry, my fault! I thought you were arguing against the evidence, like many here...

Facts & science, please. I swear, I'm really not trying to be a jerk, but you make several assertions without proof. You're saying I don't have the full picture. But also implying we're seeing so many news stories about pits attacking children, data about than being more dangerous because... there's fewer of them? Legitimately not trying to strawman you or put words in your mouth, but that would be exactly opposite the point you're trying to defend.

[+] atempuser23@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

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[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sorry, I misunderstood. So many people are having an emotional reaction to my comments...

[–] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago

Since you're using different statistics to compare and come to a conclusion, can I ask what you're getting the "breed numbers" from? @Empricorn@feddit.nl has been throwing around the dogbite site but I wouldn't go off that number.

Breed survey 2019: more puppies, yet fewer homes for pit bulls, by Merritt Clifton, Animals 24-7, July 9, 2019 (animals24-7.org). The most recent calculation by the nonprofit was completed in July 2019. Breed populations are determined annually by searching classified ad listings of dogs for sale. The last 3-year average of the total pit bull population is 8% (8.0% in 2017, 8.0% in 2018 and 7.9% in 2019) and the 10-year cumulative average (2010 to 2019) is 5.8% | View chart

Even all the things I'm seeing online like the American Kennel club don't actually track realistic numbers

Every year the American Kennel Club releases our ranking of the most popular dog breeds based on AKC registration statistics for the previous year.

It just kinda gets worse from there

According to the AVMA, 23% of dog owners acquired their dogs from breeders, while only 7% of cat owners did.

According to ASPCA, almost 40% of dog owners and 46% of cat owners got their pets from word of mouth. U.S. households get dogs and kitties from these sources:

Shelters 23% and 31%
Friends/Family 20% and 28%
Breeders 34% and 3%
Stray pets 6% and 27%
Private 12% and 6%
Other sources, 32% and 39%

So I doubt you're getting accurate numbers since the data just isn't tracked. Just like all of these "facts", it's being heavily skewed and misrepresented. Hell, even EMpricorn's "INSURANCE WEBSITE link" (it's literally a fucking ad for pet insurance) just outright dismisses all this shit with the back and forth word salad

Abuse and mistreatment can play a large role in a dog’s aggression, and pit bulls are often subjected to such conditions. In situations like this, dogs learn to be aggressive and will bite humans as a result. However, studies have shown that pit bulls’ aggression is largely due to their living conditions, and they aren’t necessarily naturally dangerous dogs.

While many pit bulls can be held responsible for dog bites, it’s also worth noting that their reputation makes people quick to blame the breed. Other dog breeds have similar physical features as pit bulls, so people assume that’s what they are.

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