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[โ€“] weker01@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

Yeah, people think black men are dangerous because of racism. ๐Ÿ™„

Combo-Gun-Violence

That's what you sound like, smh.

Disclaimer: I've not vetted the statistic I posted but seen similar numbers before.

Edit: As has been rightly pointed out the above statistic does not say what I thought it did. A better version would be:

USA Homicide Offending Rates By Race https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States

[โ€“] samus12345@lemm.ee 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

This is tracking who died, not who fired the shot.

[โ€“] weker01@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Jep, like I said did not look too closely into it. Anyway, the point is that taking statistics in a vacuum can lead to strange conclusions.

Btw the gist I was going for, that statistically black men make up a disproportionate chunk of the homicide perpetrators in the US is a fact.

USA Homicide Offending Rates By Race https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States

Still misleading on its own as it does not give insight into the cause of the discrepancy. Racists use this all the time to justify bigotry.

[โ€“] Senal@programming.dev 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The gist you actually provided was "you are doing a bad thing and I'm disappointed in you, smh" and then proceeded to do something very similar followed by a non-apology.

I actually agree with your point but it's still a shitty way to do it.

[โ€“] weker01@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Something similar? I read a picture wrong going of a fact I've heard before.

I was just lazy I give you that. I did not double check but after someone pointed the mistake out I gave better numbers.

So how is that similar to what happened before? My main point wasn't that I distrust the numbers they are posting but the way it is not backed up with good explanations and/or potential causes.

Reading back this comment does come off as overly defensive but I am genuinely confused what I did that is similar and how I should've behaved better in the face of my error.

[โ€“] Senal@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago

It's similar in that you presented a position that was not backed up by a reasonable interpretation of the data you also provided.

What you did was different, in that is was a brief misunderstanding of the wording rather than a fundamental misunderstanding of causation and correlation.

it didn't seem defensive as much as dismissive.

Honestly i could have just been reading tone in your response that wasn't there, i get that wrong more often than i would like, if so i apologise.

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