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The best way to burn off bad faith is to ask them to affirm their standard: "so you think it's dishonest to intuit intention when you have no proof"? and if they're stupid enough to claim they believe that, hit them with something like:
"What do you mean video games have a woke agenda? You can't know the intentions of game designers". "How do you know that the media is biased against Trump"? "You can't read their minds".
EDIT: My point is that debate should cut straight to a question of values, not argument. Talking about values (which cannot be disputed or proven with "facts and logic"), divides good and bad faith like a lightsabre.
I agree that a standard should be applied outside of one particular context, but it seems a lot like Whataboutism if we start bringing up unrelated contexts without directly addressing the topic at hand.
Getting stuck in wedge issues that their propaganda is currently targeting doesn't usually make a difference, in my experience. The person you replied to made a point I find useful which is to get people to talk about the values they have beneath their positions. Often people can be led to contradict themselves if we ask enough curious, open-ended questions about what motivated their opinions.
The majority of people hold fairly progressive views on most issues, but are taught to be real mad about things that don't effect them. They'll try to argue about those things the whole time, and I don't think it's worth taking the bait.