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[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (11 children)

-The incident highlights significant operational failures, as engine shutdowns should not cause communication loss, indicating a lack of redundancy in systems.

  • SpaceX's pre-flight checks failed to identify potential leaks, suggesting inadequate safety measures or poor execution of checks.

These points are really silly. Two engines exploded causing the ship to tumble. I'm not sure what they think additional communications redundancy would help with at that point.

And how do you indefiy a fuel leak on the ground that hasn't happened yet? It was caused by vibrations at a resonant frequency that is only reached at a certain fuel level?

  • Starship's design has been criticized for overestimating engine thrust capabilities, limiting its payload capacity to 40-50 tons, which is less than the Saturn V.

Who said that? That's really silly. And isn't that payload with full reusability?

Space is hard, it's literally rocket science. The embarrassing thing is it failed in the same way twice. But finding these resonance issues that only pop up in specific fuel states, makes sense it's hard to pin down. I think they'll need to characterize their vib spectrum as fuel burns down, then analyze the harmonics of the hardware and make sure they don't couple. It isn't easy, but they should be able to.

Edit: thanks for the summary, I just disagree with the article.

[–] Dashi@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (7 children)

"A loss of communication with ground control occurred as the engines shut down, leading to the rocket's self-destruction sequence.

The incident highlights significant operational failures, as engine shutdowns should not cause communication loss, indicating a lack of redundancy in systems."

For the communication redundancy part: This is just my interpretation of what I'm reading and it could be 100% wrong.

The communications need a redundant power supply/ connection not associated with the engine. Because they didn't have the communication connection and the engines were on fire the self destruct was initiated. Where if they had communications maybe they could have done something else? Turn off fuel, changed location of impact, changed location of self destruct to not be where it was.

I could be wrong, Iam in fact not a rocket scientist

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That’s also my interpretation. Which tracks with Musk companies, which tend to cut corners by cutting out redundancies.

At least with the Teslas, they also fail to isolate systems for cost cutting, and everything tied into the same bus causes a weird cascade with completely unrelated components when there are failures. If he’s forcing the same design philosophy with the rockets, that’s a completely moronic move.

[–] Rakudjo@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That’s also my interpretation. Which tracks with Musk companies, which tend to cut corners by cutting out redundancies.

https://youtu.be/NAWL8ejf2nM

What are you always preparing for? Just go!

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