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[–] ameancow@lemmy.world -3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (27 children)

My friend, that was between US and Iran and had NOTHING to do with Gaza, the Houthis were proxy players and as a result were treated like pawns. Seriously, read up on events and understand that what we're told is never the truth.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca -3 points 5 days ago (12 children)

US and Iran and had NOTHING to do with Gaza

Iran is US enemy only because it objects to Israel policies.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 15 points 5 days ago (8 children)

That's not really true. The US staged a coup in Iran in the 50's to take their oil and give power to the shah, and during the Iranian revolution, Carter allowed the same shah to take refuge in the US (against the advice of foreign policy advisors like Kissinger). This outraged the Iranians who assumed that the US was preparing to reinstall him in another coup, leading them to seize the US embassy and take hostages, causing a breakdown of relations. The US went on to support Iraq in the Iran-Iraq war. Israel is a major factor, but there's a lot of bad blood besides that, mostly because of the CIA's actions (which were motivated by oil).

[–] Andr3w222@lemm.ee 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah the reason Iran hates us is we killed there democracy and overthrew there very popular president. Because of Communist Allegations which weren't true in the slightest.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

100%.

Iran had no problem with America, it only had a problem with Britain, since they had been exploiting them as a colonial power. Truman actually forbid the CIA from doing what it wanted because he understood it to be a democratic, anti-colonial struggle. But the CIA and Eisenhower just had to wait for him to leave office, and Eisenhower came in not really understanding the situation and with both the CIA and Churchill asking him to sign off on it. It ended up being a bargaining chip, the US would overthrow Mossadegh to protect BP's profits, and in exchange the UK would join NATO and support the Korean War. The Iranians got completely fucked over, just for trying to get out from under the thumb of colonial exploitation and reassert control over their own resources (and they weren't the only ones). Part of the reason the coup succeeded was because Mossadegh trusted the US, and they exploited that trust to stab him in the back.

And nowadays, Americans are not only completely ignorant of that history, but even have the audacity to say things like "Islam is incompatible with democracy." Like, motherfucker, you are incompatible with democracy.

[–] Andr3w222@lemm.ee 4 points 5 days ago
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