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[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org -2 points 6 days ago (10 children)

Not seeing how this would affect uptake. Lossless is great for production images, but standard JPEG will do (at low compression) for most Web use cases. Until OS developers coalesce around PNG as a standard (Windows has for screenshots), this is that old standards xkcd.

Alpha channels are nice and all, but how many end users A) have a need for that and B) understand the underlying concept, let alone implementation?

[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 13 points 6 days ago (4 children)

What a weird take. Alpha channels are used all the time. A lot of tools use WebP for them, though. Things like stickers and emoji in chat apps often recode into WebP or force you to figure out how to make a WebP with a certain configuration to accept your pack, but from there on out they rely on alpha channels.

MacOS app icons are a collection of layers with alpha channels embedded into them, stacked on top of each other, or themed individually. Unless you're blind, any iOS or macOS user encounters alpha channels every time they turn on their screen. On Android, those files are even actual PNGs. On Windows, those are .ico resources, and everything larger than 64x64 is guaranteed to be a PNG embedded inside of an .ico (possibly embedded inside of a .exe/.dll/etc.

WebP has replaced jpeg for most web content already when it comes to compression. This just solves things like "how do I save my HDR images without degrading them every time I hit save".

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org -1 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I'll agree for those use cases, but not everyone is making icons, stickers and emoji.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They are using them, however. They're visiting websites with them, using apps with them, and so forth.

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org -2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

OK, and the kernel is written in C and assembly. Should they know both of those as well?

[–] B0rax@feddit.org 4 points 5 days ago

No, but it should still work. Getting rid of alpha channels would break all of that.

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