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๐Ÿ“บ Why the Democratic Party CANNOT and WILL NOT be Reformed
Democrats would rather lose to a Republican, to a conservative, to a fascist, to Trump, than address the material conditions of the American people.

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[โ€“] Ele7en7@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (21 children)

Which is why we need a Democrat socialist party. Unfortunately, voters are incapable of voting for anything other than red or blue.

[โ€“] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 24 points 2 weeks ago (16 children)

It's not the voters fault. If you split the Democratic vote, you will only get a permanent Republican government. And that doesn't help anyone.

Politicians like Mamdani are the only way forward. We need more people like him to run for local government like this, and move their way up from there...making way for more like them to take their places, as they go. You can't change things at the top, without laying the foundation for that change, first.

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

You can't really change the system from within into a fundamentally opposed one. That's why revolution is still necessary.

[โ€“] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's still a net positive for candidates like Mamdani to achieve electoral victories. Even if you believe that a true socialist can never make it to a high enough office to establish a socialist government (which I agree is likely correct), making the attempt and achieving some reforms in the face of very public resistance from the bourgeoisie is great for class consciousness. It sends the message "hey, it actually is possible to improve your material conditions, and the rich really don't want it to happen." Give people a taste and they will want more, which is why the establishment is so terrified of Zohran Mamdani.

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

I agree that Mamdani is a positive candidate, and the fact that he beat Cuomo in the primary is a massive indicator of the real opinions held by the working class. I elaborated more elsewhere on why I support Mamdani. I don't really disagree with anything you've said here, my overall point is that Mamdani isn't a substitute for revolution and it's important to keep that in mind while we celebrate openly anti-Zionist, pro-socialist victories over establishment ghouls.

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