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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 55 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (14 children)

Nah, thats just a side effect. The primary purpose of AI is being a hype object that companies can use to inflate their stock. I like how this blogpost explained it https://pluralistic.net/2025/06/30/accounting-gaffs/

The labor market effect will be quite short lived. LLMs as a replacement to human labor will be gone before long simply because they will ruin any company, government or project that relies on them. Its a sort of natural selection.

[–] tate@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

I hope you're right.

I have doubt, but also hope.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

LLMs have a more mystical pull than other previous hypes, but look at what happened with crypto and blockchain. Every fucking government and company was saying that its the future and now nobody gives a shit about those anymore. It might be later than you and i would like, but eventually it will pass.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 17 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Or it will become foundational tech like the Internet. People said that was a fad too.

It all depends on whether or not it becomes reliable and cheap.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

Idk why you are being downvoted. It is a real possiblity, but i just dont think its likely.

reliable and cheap

Because it simply wont ever be those things. LLMs become more expensive the better you try to make them, exponentially so. We will likely never see LLMs that are significantly better than what we have today. Basically all written human texts on the internet have been used for LLM training. Any further gains can only come from optimizing training algorithms and there hasnt been any real progress there for years now.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

The internet was successful because it was predictable and reliable and filled a previously unserved purpose. LLMs could possibly serve a purpose creating text that doesn't need to be correct or accurate, but it won't replace anything that requires any level of accuracy or accountability because the design is inherently flawed due to being a prediction algorithm.

There are uses for pattern matching AI that will continue to be tools used by humans to help focus efforts in massively complex work, but they won't ever be foundational replacements.

Oh yeah for sure there are plenty of great uses for machine learning, i would never deny that.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Yes, it will take a substantial change in LLM architecture to make them viable for general use. Like you said, a couple orders of magnitude improvement in training would be the biggest help. Though I’m not sure that’s even possible.

[–] greenskye@lemmy.zip 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Cloud everything, saas, and offshore workers are all still things that have been negatively affecting people for years and never really went away even if the hype died down.

Cloud computing is slowly crumbling too. At least in germany more and more companies are going back to on prem, because there are just a bunch of studies showing that cloud stuff is more expensive, less flexible and often actually has more downtime. But unlike other stupid projects you cant just reverse the move to cloud in a few months, it will take years to unfuck everything.

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