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    [–] confusedpuppy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (21 children)

    I'm autistic as fuck so I can't read anyone's signals but men are just as bad. I could never understand why men worked so hard to get my attention and got all weird when I didn't give them that attention.

    They also spend a lot of time trying to shape me into the type of man they want to be around yet they would never outright say what they are doing and why I should change for them.

    Then they would get all jealous when I actually hung out with women and get even weirder about it when I wouldn't engage them in the weird conversations they wanted to have about women.

    Like dude, if you want a hug or a cuddle, just say so because these roundabout games you're playing is confusing as fuck.

    So now I wander the earth thoroughly confused...

    [–] Pika@rekabu.ru 18 points 6 days ago (10 children)

    A bit of insights:

    They get all weird because they see getting your attention as a sort of investment. They take time, effort, dedicate themselves to figuring out how to best build contact with you, and when it doesn't work out, it naturally leads to frustration. From there, they either close down (minimize losses), or get weird (frantically trying to make it work).

    As per hugs and cuddles, masculine culture heavily disincentivizes tender emotions, and they can be seen as a reason for ridicule. Being burnt heavily on that, many men prefer to be very careful about communicating such needs.

    [–] confusedpuppy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 days ago (9 children)

    Part of the confusion is the men I have had experiences with spend a lot of time talking about women but then invest an uncomfortable amount of time trying to turn me into a man that they want me to be for them.

    One guy spent nearly two weeks trying to get me to take creatine and go work out with him. Like if he wants me to cuddle him with big, strong, manly arms, he was going about it in a weird way.

    It's just as confusing when men love that I treat them as unique individual but get upset with me that I also treat women like unique individuals, almost like they are jealous.

    The signals are there but I can't read 'em!

    [–] Pika@rekabu.ru 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

    Oh, many men are jealous when women they like hang out a lot with other women and enjoy their time. Modern culture made it look like women may form a special form of deep connection men can never reach, while simultaneously making men feel isolated overall, and some are driven quite crazy over it.

    As such, when they get the attention they crave, they don't feel they can secure it. Thereby, mentioning other women and what they mean to you feels like a threat. This takes a while to unlearn, and is one kind of trauma many men get to experience.

    I do not have many personal insights about how men want their friends/partners to be manly, but I may suggest it may come from the same point. Male friendships nowadays are fairly rare, and some folks really just want a bro to hang out with.

    [–] confusedpuppy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    I'm quite literally a bro they can hang out with, and have always been. I just lack the big strong arms they want me to have to cuddle them with D:

    [–] Allero@lemmy.today 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

    Lol

    Hope you find bros who appreciate your current hugs :)

    I'm quite fortunate enough to have found people who appreciate my hugs. Not quite bros. Or maybe they are. Depends on peoples perspective. In any case, my arms just fine as they are for them :)

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