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[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 200 points 1 week ago (15 children)

Thanks for including the mirror, OP.

Companies that obtain mobile phone location data generally do it in two different ways. The first is through software development kits (SDKs) embedded in ordinary smartphone apps, like games or weather forecasters. These SDKs continuously gather a user’s granular location, transfer that to the data broker, and then sell that data onward or repackage it and sell access to government agencies.

The second is through real-time bidding (RTB). When an advert is about to be served to a mobile phone user, there is a near instantaneous, and invisible, bidding process in which different companies vie to have their advert placed in front of certain demographics. A side-effect is that this demographic data, including mobile phones’ location, can be harvested by surveillance firms. Sometimes spy companies buy ad tech companies out right to insert themselves into this data supply chain. We previously found at least thousands of apps were hijacked to provide location data in this way.

I really despise these practices. I don't know how people can build these tools with a clear conscience.

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 69 points 1 week ago (3 children)

That’s easy. You just ignore your conscience because money speaks louder to these people.

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Or you use confirmation bias to tell yourself it's an innocuous use case that won't hurt anyone.

Or you use a bandwagon argument like "everybody else is doing it, so why can't we" or "everybody else is doing it so it doesn't make much difference if we do too"

Or you use a library for ads such as the google-ads-api npm package, without checking it, so you don't realise how much data it's collecting on your users...

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Or even worse, “if we don’t it, someone else will anyway”

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The Peter Thiel Paradox (also the name of my new wave band) "It's inevitable/you're only fighting progress, and any regulations will turn it into an authoritarian nightmare. Which is what it's turning into anyway because it's simply inevitable. So stop trying to resist by forcing regulations on this inevitable authoritarian nightmare that we had no way of stopping."

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