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Differential privacy keeps that data private. It’s a mathematical framework whereby a statistical output can’t be used to determine any individual’s data in a dataset, and the bureau’s algorithm for differential privacy is called TopDown. It injects “noise” into the data starting at the highest level (national), moving progressively downward. There are certain constraints placed around the kind of noise that can be introduced—for instance, the total number of people in a state or census block has to remain the same. But other demographic characteristics, like race or gender, are randomly reassigned to individual records within a set tranche of data. This way, the overall number of people with a certain characteristic remains constant, while the characteristics associated with any one record don’t describe an individual person. In other words, you’ll know how many women or Hispanic people are in a census block, just not exactly where.

On August 28, Republican Representative August Pfluger introduced the COUNT Act. If passed, it would add a citizenship question to the census and force the Census Bureau to “cease utilization of the differential privacy process.” Pfluger’s office did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

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[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 51 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

This makes census data useless as no one will respond honestly. Everyone is now a male blond haired, blue eyed, evangelical christian of northern european heritage named John Smith with $250,000/yr income. (As far as you know)

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That’s hardly useless. If everyone is blonde haired and blue eyed hetero etc. they have even more justification to cut programs that benefit anyone outside this demographic.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Do you think these people need excuses or data to validate their actions?

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

No, but the falsified data isn’t useless just because it isn’t aligning with reality. It’ll absolutely be suitable for propaganda purposes.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Propaganda doesn't need data.

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Correct, it doesn’t need it, but that doesn’t mean they won’t use it. They will use any data of spurious quality if it supports their agenda. Ergo, it’s not useless - it has a use for a rather evil purpose.

You keep inserting the word “need” when I never said that. It’s optional, but it enhances the effectiveness if they can point to a number and say “see, we’ve got data.”

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sorry, you've lost me. Bad faith actors make up their own truth. Collecting data is expensive. Making shit up and forcing it to be published as truth is faster, cheaper and more effective.

"See, we've got the data" means nothing to propagandists.

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I’m not saying that they’re changing the census for the purposes of propaganda, but if the data happens to suit the narrative they’re pushing, they’re not just going to ignore the data they’ve already collected from their poorly run census.

The first thing you said is “This makes census data useless”

I don’t think that it does, even if it’s garbage data. If it fits their narrative, they will use it to support their propaganda. It’s already paid for, thus it’s basically free.

"See, we've got the data" means nothing to propagandists.

Absolutely not. The best propaganda is true (or at least, appears to be true and supported by data). If there’s data to support their position, it will absolutely be used to strengthen their position. Ergo, if the census data says America is now skewing towards white, hetero, etc, because of their stupid changes, it will absolutely be used to further their agenda. They’re not going to waste it.

The data being incorrect doesn’t make it useless.

[–] d00phy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Yeah, we all need to be minority women of wildly varying income levels. Make the “great replacement” fuckers shake in their boots!

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