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This makes census data useless as no one will respond honestly. Everyone is now a male blond haired, blue eyed, evangelical christian of northern european heritage named John Smith with $250,000/yr income. (As far as you know)
That’s hardly useless. If everyone is blonde haired and blue eyed hetero etc. they have even more justification to cut programs that benefit anyone outside this demographic.
Do you think these people need excuses or data to validate their actions?
No, but the falsified data isn’t useless just because it isn’t aligning with reality. It’ll absolutely be suitable for propaganda purposes.
Propaganda doesn't need data.
Correct, it doesn’t need it, but that doesn’t mean they won’t use it. They will use any data of spurious quality if it supports their agenda. Ergo, it’s not useless - it has a use for a rather evil purpose.
You keep inserting the word “need” when I never said that. It’s optional, but it enhances the effectiveness if they can point to a number and say “see, we’ve got data.”
Sorry, you've lost me. Bad faith actors make up their own truth. Collecting data is expensive. Making shit up and forcing it to be published as truth is faster, cheaper and more effective.
"See, we've got the data" means nothing to propagandists.
I’m not saying that they’re changing the census for the purposes of propaganda, but if the data happens to suit the narrative they’re pushing, they’re not just going to ignore the data they’ve already collected from their poorly run census.
The first thing you said is “This makes census data useless”
I don’t think that it does, even if it’s garbage data. If it fits their narrative, they will use it to support their propaganda. It’s already paid for, thus it’s basically free.
Absolutely not. The best propaganda is true (or at least, appears to be true and supported by data). If there’s data to support their position, it will absolutely be used to strengthen their position. Ergo, if the census data says America is now skewing towards white, hetero, etc, because of their stupid changes, it will absolutely be used to further their agenda. They’re not going to waste it.
The data being incorrect doesn’t make it useless.
Yeah, we all need to be minority women of wildly varying income levels. Make the “great replacement” fuckers shake in their boots!