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    [–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 87 points 2 years ago (19 children)

    Can I share an episode?

    We're a Window$ free house; Linux is the daily driver on every single computer we have.

    I have school age children. They have IT classes. I set up a machine with Mint, clean install, to serve has the school workhorse. Not one task assigned at school can not be done in the Linux box. My child came home a few worried a few times because the teacher disliked having a linux box in the room.

    What happens is the teacher is terrified has they cannot load a single piece of software on that machine, as they do with all the other students, at will. The notion of explaining to all the other students they need to go to some site to download some program while my child just needs to fetch it (or already has it pre installed) from a secure repository is baffling. The knowledge that that humble and rather older machine can not be trivialy tampered with is mind disturbing.

    At some point the teacher explained how to maintain the system (clean temp files and random junk Windows collects over time by just having programs installed and removed) and looked at my child and chidded that was something she could not do.

    I taught my kid how to do basic system maintenance. Through the console. Like a boss. They upgraded the system while they colleagues were "busy" hunting down temp files.

    [–] Schal330@lemmy.world 51 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    I feel for the teacher, Windows is still the predominant OS that is used by businesses worldwide and it's unlikely to change any time soon. Ensuring the kids have some familiarity with it is important as when a lot of them go into the workplace their employer isn't going to give them a choice of OS to use. A number of schools in my country now provide kids with Windows laptops that can be managed through group policies. I can imagine the teacher feeling frustrated at times as their teaching material will be geared to Windows and may face challenges in being able to grade your kid.

    It's great you have given your kid experience in using Linux and that should set them up really well to working in a Linux based environment. Hopefully one day other OS will be added to teacher's curriculum so that all kids have the opportunity to get hands on experience.

    [–] Numpty@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

    Kinda depends where you work.

    I've been working full time in software dev and hardware dev since the mid-1990s. Through that whole time I've worked almost exclusively on (in the early days) Sun workstations, AS/400, and HPUX machines. This eventually transitioned to Linux and macOS (once it became Unix based). Over the past 7-8 years, every company I've worked for (primarily in backend software and "big data") has actually heavily restricted Windows within the company. Most have required high level approval to have a Windows machine... you had to have a damn good business reason to run Windows as your primary OS.

    Windows is definitely the leader in generic desktop work, but... there are pockets out there of Linux/macOS-only. And... given the strong shift to browser based everything... Windows has lost its shininess for all but the most specific applications - eg graphics editing in industry standard tooling like Photoshop.

    Thankfully the school my kids go to doesn't really give a crap what you run at home on on their laptops they used for school work as long as the kids are able to to their assignments. Almost 100% of what they do is browser based interfaces anyway, so it doesn't matter what the underlying OS is. I've made a point of teaching my kids Linux, macOS, and Windows. They've both asked to run Linux on their personal PCs... it was, and remains their choice.

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