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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 182 points 2 years ago (54 children)

That's.. a good argument. I never thought of it like that.

[–] MostlyHarmless@programming.dev 14 points 2 years ago (38 children)

Is it stealing if you don't pay for the cinema? You don't own anything new after.

Is it stealing if you don't pay for your haircut? You don't own anything new after.

Is it stealing if you don't pay for your car service? You don't own anything new after.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (12 children)

In those three cases, you're receiving a service (showing you the movie, cutting your hair and servicing your car), so yeah, you're stealing their work, which is arguably much worse than stealing objects.

In contrast, copying a copy of a movie or a game or whatever without removing the original or even a copy of it is not stealing.

And before you chime in with "but future income!", those profits are hypothetical, so even in the most uncharitable rational definition, you have stolen something that someone MIGHT have gotten.

Copying is not theft and you can't steal something that doesn't and might never exist.

[–] ChiefestOfCalamities@partizle.com -4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm guessing you're in favor of counterfeiting currency, then?

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nope. I don't know about you, but I've never tried to pay for goods or services with a pirated copy of Shrek 2, much less one I was trying to pass off as the "real deal".

[–] thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

After society collapses, pirated copies of Shrek 2 will be one of the only objects worth anything at all.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Sounds better than the current state of affairs tbh 🤷

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