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I am so tired of the whole "cool pope" thing with Francis. It's 100% PR.

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[–] MudMan@fedia.io 4 points 1 year ago (7 children)

The surrogacy debate is one of those things where I think leftists and feminists across the world don't realize how far apart they are. Over here it's a very mainstream left-wing, feminist position to agree with the Pope on that one. Hardcore feminists, and increasingly moderates as well will refer to surrogacy as "human trafficking" and have been lobbying to illegalize it outright for a while.

I'm not super aware of the mainstream stance among feminism in the US, but from the comments here I'm gonna say... not that?

[–] Nepenthe@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

From the US: I'm over 30 and this is the first time I've heard surrogacy referred to as human trafficking. And now I need to sit and think.

It's always felt a little bit creepy to me, but I've also never wanted kids and the idea of pregnancy for any reason would be traumatic. So I'm starting out heavily biased. I think if you take the money out, it no longer counts....?

But the idea would be so out of left field that it would mostly be dismissed out of hand, probably even by most women.

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