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A list of attendees viewed by DeSmog shows fossil fuel companies represented alongside major religious right groups at the Alliance for Responsible Citizenship event.

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[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 63 points 6 days ago (5 children)

How bad is it that I no longer care about engaging with these fuckers rhetorically anymore and pretty much just want to see violence inflicted upon them? That’s really bad right? Are a lot of people struggling like this?

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 26 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I've devoted years of my life to dealing with these motherfuckers rhetorically. The problem is that they don't care about winning logical arguments, they just want to muddy the waters. The average fan of these idiots doesn't want to do the work of educating themselves, or considering logical arguments. The dumb arguments are the path of least resistance, so that's the path they take.

I literally just ended a 40 year friendship with a guy who let himself fall for this crap. We were each-other's best-man, but I haven't been able to have a single conversation with him in years without the anti-woke bullshit ruining it.

At this point, it's clear that rhetoric has failed. I'm not happy about it, but I have no problem whatsoever with violence happening to these freaks. I see no reason to struggle with it. What they do is violence to society and it results in suffering and death on a difficult to comprehend scale.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago

This is a power struggle, not a debate.

I mean what even is there to engage with rhetorically that isn't clearly gaslighting?

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It's not bad. The people that tell you it's bad are the enablers. They are the ones that have let these criminals run roughshod across the world for decades, because they keep telling everyone else, "We have checks and balances," "Good always prevails," and a hundred other lies so they can keep buying their shit from the enslaved that die in sweat shops. You are not bad for wishing to see retribution come to those who have done everything in their power to elevate themselves while destroying everything around them. The ones left cleaning up the rubble in the ruins of our world won't ever think, "It's a good thing no one ever held those power hungry oligarchs in check. It would have been a shame if someone got hurt." No. The lie that we keep telling ourselves is that this won't end in violence. It will. The violence has already begun. It's worldwide. But we let it happen because it's a slow motion mosh pit. So slow that we accept the hurt because it's just "a little worse", and cannot see the compounding nature of the damage that is being done. It will end in violence. Will it be your violence, or theirs? Only one of those ends with your loved ones seeing a brighter day.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 10 points 6 days ago

That’s not bad, it’s rational.

We’ve tried their way for decades and decades, and now the world is on the brink of societal and ecological collapse. It’s time we make ourselves heard.

[–] nixfreak@sopuli.xyz 10 points 6 days ago

Yeah, I just keep watching Civil war

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 44 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Holy FUCK! The list of attendees reads like a who's-who of every asshole who is working to burn the planet to the ground.

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago

Here we go again.

[–] Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 5 days ago

If only the party would make like the planet

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 7 points 6 days ago

So it’s a good list of who to chop?

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

that suit pretty much speaks for itself. I have seen at least multiple ponzi scheme leaders wearing similar suits.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Also in the hunger games.