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Firefox maker Mozilla deleted a promise to never sell its users' personal data and is trying to assure worried users that its approach to privacy hasn't fundamentally changed. Until recently, a Firefox FAQ promised that the browser maker never has and never will sell its users' personal data. An archived version from January 30 says:

Does Firefox sell your personal data?

Nope. Never have, never will. And we protect you from many of the advertisers who do. Firefox products are designed to protect your privacy. That's a promise.

That promise is removed from the current version. There's also a notable change in a data privacy FAQ that used to say, "Mozilla doesn't sell data about you, and we don't buy data about you."

The data privacy FAQ now explains that Mozilla is no longer making blanket promises about not selling data because some legal jurisdictions define "sale" in a very broad way:

Mozilla doesn't sell data about you (in the way that most people think about "selling data"), and we don't buy data about you. Since we strive for transparency, and the LEGAL definition of "sale of data" is extremely broad in some places, we've had to step back from making the definitive statements you know and love. We still put a lot of work into making sure that the data that we share with our partners (which we need to do to make Firefox commercially viable) is stripped of any identifying information, or shared only in the aggregate, or is put through our privacy preserving technologies (like OHTTP).

Mozilla didn't say which legal jurisdictions have these broad definitions.

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[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

please pay me if you want to sell my data. At the end of the day I am a business and need to cover operating cost.

Is there an open source tool to generate fake user activity data for Firefox to consume?

[–] Solventbubbles@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Son of a bitch I just got back into Firefox.

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[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

At least Ecosia plants trees, and the way those trees produce oxygen and absorb CO2 is a benefit to me.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Don't collect anything on your own and don't sell the things you don't collect. Bam, problem solved.

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 10 points 2 days ago

Which jurisdictions? What kind of broad way? Give one example please. I dare you.

[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Several questions:

  1. How are they getting our data?
  2. What is the nature of the data?
  3. Can we do anything in about:config?
[–] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 17 points 2 days ago

How are they getting our data?

By setting up small pieces of code that trigger when you use a given feature, and send a network request to Mozilla's servers with either a single flag set to just show a feature was used, in general, or more additional data with context (e.g. how long the text is that users are putting into their new AI sidebar feature)

What is the nature of the data?

This section of their Privacy Notice explains what categories of telemetry data they collect.

Can we do anything in about:config?

None needed. The normal settings menu has you covered. Go to Settings > Privacy & Security > Firefox Data Collection and Use > Allow Firefox to send technical and interaction data to Mozilla

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

so is this them trying to protect its users while adding nuance for the sake of legal protections, or is this them pretending to do that in order to profit off its users?

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

palemoon is just firefox from the pre quantum days before the webextension enshittification and all they need is a decent mobile app and their own sync

[–] limoncia@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Isn't it more vulnerable since it's based on older version? Correct me if I'm wrong

[–] coolmojo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It is actively developed . They didn’t just kept the old version. They forked it and improving and fixing it.

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[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

What's the next Android browser I'm installing fam?

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[–] birdiebop@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] AvailableFill74@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] towelie@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Tor/Mullvad are the only acceptable options if you genuinely want the best for your privacy. Mullvad browser is a bit less of a hassle than Tor but not by much. If adamant about staying away from Gecko (Firefox) and Chromium browsers then WebKit forked browsers are sort of the last options.

At this point I'm beginning to look at going online as something that is inherently dangerous (for lack of a better word) and that needs to be done with care. There is no meaningful way to stay private anymore, and by connecting and interacting you are always painting a target on your back with long-lasting consequences that we can't imagine yet. It's not looking great right now, my dudes.

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[–] androidul@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

lmao another Mozilla shitshow

grabs popcorn 🍿

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