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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just for clarification, that's EU and not Europe. Yes, i'm in the hole in the center.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago

So, already a world power.

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As an American with an insanely good job and life square in middle class, I'll fucking move over there in a heartbeat.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

I wouldn't. The EU / Europe as it exists right now in 2025 might, and that's a definite might, look better than America but it's going to look very different in 10 to 20 years. Every nation in the EU is standing on an economic knife edge while waiting for their demographic bomb to go off.

The European rearmement that's being discussed makes it worse; when things go bad, and they will, they'll be armed up and ready to repeat their last 2,000 years of near constant warfare.

Unless your over 65 its quite likely that you'll see it happen in your lifetime.

[–] Redredme@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

We've done that already a few times. After over 3000 years of empires must we really? Again? The Greek empire, the roman empire, the spanish empire, the holy roman empire, the dutch golden century, the British (largest globe spanning empire ever) and French empires, Austria Hungaria and I'm quite certain even Portugal had its day. And let's not forget Germany. Or the Soviet union and tsarist Russia. Also nice as far as empires go.

Anyway..

Sigh.

Fine.

But dont come crying if you dont like the outcome.

Pax Americana only ended because you guys voted for it. We where fine with it, hanging out, buying your shit. Using your tech.

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Simply whip up an F35 program overnight. No big.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago

'old my cup of wine...

[–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Just spin up the largest military manufacturing industry on the planet. Ez pz

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[–] the_swagmaster@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They let themselves be subservient to the Americans cause they didn't trust each other (understandable given the shared history of the continent).

Now that the USA has flipped the switch so dramatically given Trump is unpredictable and incompetent, I hope the Europeans realise they can trust each other more than their far away who doesn't give 2 shits about them. I'm optimistic but whilst they can do stuff for Ukraine, I'm not sure how they will go about EU reform (if they can even get it done given Orban exists). They need to be bold and I'm not sure they will all be on the same page for that

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

cause they didn't trust each other (understandable given the >shared history of the continent).

Oh man, don't you ever underestimate the most important rule of all time.

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[–] seeigel@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago

That's not the spot to touch if you want Europe to rise again ...

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