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    [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

    I had to spend an annoying amount of time finding all of the settings to make it so that my windows machine would never wake up on its own, spread out over an even longer period of time because some of them aren't easy to trigger on my own so it was a matter of trying something and then trying more things if I find it awake on its own again.

    Even disabling the wake on mouse movement was a pain because it doesn't properly label mice and keyboards and doesn't have a global setting. I wanted to keep wake on keyboard but not have it wake if my mouse moved a nm because a butterfly flapped its wings too vigorously as it flew by the closed window.

    After I installed Linux, I went to do the same thing there only to find it already had sensible defaults set.

    [–] the_q@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade -y

    That's how easy updating is on (Debian flavors)Linux.

    [–] igiIq@lemm.ee 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

    On arch it is sudo pacman -Syu or yay

    [–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

    sudo nixos-rebuild switch --update

    [–] igiIq@lemm.ee 1 points 16 hours ago

    Sudo flatpak update

    [–] bradd@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

    On RHEL it's simply sudo dnf update -y

    [–] gruhuken@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    STOP TALKING ABOUR WINDOWS!! STOP TALKING ABOUT WINDOWS!!!!!! IM BORED

    [–] ARk@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

    oOooOooOo πŸͺŸ

    "My PC" was even replaced with "this PC" since Windows 11, which feels almost too symbolic...

    [–] Elkot@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    My PC does this really annoying thing, whenever I tell it to Install and Shut Down the bloody thing restarts every time

    [–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    That's because the shutdown hardly exists anymore. When you choose shutdown now it just hibernates. Reboot is the only way to get the full refresh of a shutdown unless you're using CMD.

    So I dualboot and each time i shuts down, i get boot menu. Are you telling me that is not shutdown in windows?

    [–] pigup@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

    "My" "p" "c"

    [–] mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

    I like and I do use Linux as my main OS. No dual boot BS, just pure Linux

    butttttttttttttt

    getting hibernate working perfectly in Linux on new hardware is PITA. I'm just happy with suspend working well, let alone hibernation.

    Modern standby is the absolute shit of an invention.

    This is the ONLY reason I wish I have a Mac. Forget all the memes and jokes about Apple, their laptops suspend very well. IIRC, they also have a hibernation timer built in, so if your laptop automatically hibernates after X hrs. But I dont want to be stuck in their ecosystem, so yeh...

    Linux devs are not that keen to make hibernate work well either. Remember systemd dev forcefully removed the "suspend then hibernate" feature? You can still find the thread on Github lol.

    [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 21 hours ago

    OpenSUSE hibernate works. Just have to add extention to show the hibernate button (in GNOME)

    I heard mac won't shutdown at all but only does sleep and someone mentioned any keypress will wake it from sleep so that you can't clean keyboard..

    [–] tyler@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

    this meme is really true for windows, sometimes my pc wakes up the second I put it to sleep. seems to be some random app I have open allowing it to wake up again. infuriating. With intel macs, they wasted a lot of battery asleep, but my silicon mac can sleep for weeks without losing hardly any battery. linux I still can't get sound to work properly.

    [–] oppy1984@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    Ugh, the updates.....my work PC is Win 11, I got an email from IT last night telling me I had to install the latest update I had been putting off. This morning after I clocked out I started the update. I have 500 down and it took almost 2 hours to download and 3 hours later the installation is only at 53%. I'm just going to go to bed and hope it's done by the time I have to clock in tonight.

    And my coworkers wonder why I prefer Linux.....

    [–] SitD@lemy.lol 16 points 1 day ago

    this meme is especially true for students and the likes πŸ˜‚ whenever you share a one-room flat with a laptop made by clueless techbros for clueless techbros, the increased fan whirring really shines.

    [–] blarth@thelemmy.club 31 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    To be fair, Linux has not been especially awesome at suspended/hibernate/resume, historically.

    Yea, I like to suspend my machine, but rather than hit suspend and walk away I have to wait to find out what has prevented suspend from suspending. That and it trying to goto sleep when I don't want it to. Drives me nuts

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    [–] egonallanon@lemm.ee 121 points 2 days ago (45 children)

    The main thing I'm learning from this thread is that a surprising number of people don't shut their machines down when they're done using them. Which is wild to me.

    [–] vodka@lemm.ee 70 points 2 days ago (10 children)

    A lot of modern windows laptop don't let you shut them down.

    They use something called Windows Hybrid Sleep and it should be illegal. Selecting shut down in windows will keep the machine in a state where it will turn on at random times to check for updates. Especially fun whrn in your backpack creating a furnace.

    Thankfully it can be disabled via AD policy.

    [–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Shouldn't have to use fucking group policy just to stop your machine updating at inopportune times. Fucking Windows.

    [–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    It's always funny to me when people call Linux complicated and in the next sentence say shit like that

    As if doing registry edits and group policy stuff is acceptable for basic features and settings

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    [–] Petter1@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    🀭and sometimes, if you wake your linux things go to shit and all you see is black screen and white mouse on it

    Sometimes super+ctrl+alt+F8 saves me and I can restart PC from TTY, and sometimes, there is only a flashing cursor. In second case, I have to take hard measures and forcefully manually restart it

    (Yes nvidia card with latest proprietary driver and kde on wayland) -> everything latest meaning from endeavour/arch/aur repos.

    [–] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 day ago (5 children)

    Not every Nvidia but always Nvidia.

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    [–] Technus@lemmy.zip 93 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (16 children)

    My Windows 10 computer eerily waking itself from sleep got me in the habit of shutting it down completely every night. I'd be lying in bed, turn over and open my eyes, and see the light of the screen reflecting off the wall. It was like something out of a shitty horror movie about computers taking over the world.

    To this fucking day, even in Windows 11, it takes "Update and Shut Down" as a mere fucking suggestion. About half the time, it'll restart after the update and just sit there chilling at the login screen. Not a single fuck given.

    Linux is a breath of fresh air by comparison. Though, if you choose to run Arch you need to stay on top of updates or else a day will come where you won't be able to update because you're now too far behind. It can be fixed manually, but it's still annoying and a little scary if you're not familiar with it.

    [–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 41 points 2 days ago (5 children)

    Imagine your oven or clothes iron turning itself on while you're not home. Why TF people just accept their computers doing this is beyond me. Either it's a boiling frog situation, or people simply don't remember the times us users had complete control over our devices and think things were always this way.

    As an 80s/90s kid, I can tell you they most definitely were not.

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    [–] poplargrove@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

    Another day of learning about Linux from the comments under a meme.

    [–] ShotDonkey@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    Nope. My Linux Mint randomly wakes up from sleep mode all the time. It's just a bug. Tried to fix it, never found solution. I guess I am fine with it. Well. Not really. Help me if you can!!11!!

    [–] muhyb@programming.dev 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    Apparently you can see which devices can wake your PC with cat /proc/acpi/wakeup. S3 should be sleep and S4 hibernation. Though I have no idea which device is which.

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    [–] MasterNerd@lemm.ee 39 points 2 days ago (7 children)

    Linux users when their computer won't boot because they fucked up their grub config again: (Totally not me)

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    [–] ptz@dubvee.org 43 points 2 days ago (4 children)

    Did anyone else ever notice that Windows's enshittification really took off around the same time they renamed "My PC" to "This PC" ?

    Always seemed like it was a subtle indicator they no longer considered it your personal computer but rather one they so graciously allow you to use once in a while.

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    [–] 30p87@feddit.org 36 points 2 days ago (5 children)

    I'm always so amused when people are like "Uhm, actually, when you shutdown your PC it's not turned off, it's sleeping so it ca.." - Bro, no. sudo poweroff. It's off. Completely off. In fact, it would be hella annoying and fucking useless to configure sleeping.

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