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Summary

A father whose unvaccinated six-year-old daughter became the first U.S. measles death in 10 years remains steadfast in his anti-vaccine beliefs.

The Mennonite man from Seminole, Texas told The Atlantic, "The vaccination has stuff we don't trust," maintaining that measles is normal despite its near-eradication through vaccination.

His stance echoes claims by HHS Secretary Robert Kennedy Jr., who initially downplayed the current North American outbreak before changing his position under scrutiny.

Despite his daughter's death, the father stated, "Everybody has to die."

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[–] trslim@pawb.social 50 points 3 days ago

Fucking deathcult of america.

[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 41 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Ah yes, the "everybody dies so who gives a shit" defense...

He says he doesn't trust it, but he's lying. If he actually cared about what's in the vaccines, he would get educated on the ingredients, the process of manufacture, the data and studies that have been done, etc.

But he won't do that, because he is a religious fundamentalist. He doesn't care about being logical, or reasonable, or understanding anything. He heard a certain viewpoint that he vibes with and stubbornly and fanatically holds to it.

Same as radical Islamists, or the Crusaders, or conspiracy theory nuts. They didn't reason themselves into their worldview. It wasn't carefully and methodically researched, it isn't something they are willing to change or adapt or be wrong on.

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[–] danglybits23@lemm.ee 48 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Makes sense, what if she took the vaccine and it killed her? Oh, wait..

These people should be in prison for murder and forcibly sterilized.

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[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago

I sort of think we should be really mean to these people.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Guy's almost happy his kid died. That should be a crime. Even worse, he's happy to have been at the helm of her death. Disgusting.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This is just so horrifying. Don't trust? Holy shit, his child is dead!

And what is this "stuff" that he's talking about? Midi-chlorians?

[–] mint_tamas@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Of course he’s not changing his stance. Doing so would be admitting that his child died as a direct consequence of his own actions. He will forever be anti-vax from now on, even if his life depends on it.

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[–] CptCosmicMoron@lemmy.ca 37 points 3 days ago

So basically, he's saying he'd rather have a dead child than a child with autism or whatever malady he thinks vaccines cause. Holy hell.

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 35 points 3 days ago (3 children)

If you can accept the will of God that your child dies without vaccination, you can accept the will of God that your child survived vaccination, even it it caused something unexpected.

[–] GreatBlueHeron@lemmy.ca 43 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Or accept that God sent the scientists that developed the vaccine. The whole "will of God" argument is always so full of holes - logic doesn't come into it.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Yeah, this fucker should be arrested, kids taken away and he should be housed in a care facility where he slowly can be weaned off the conspiracy theories until he's normal again

Yes, I'm advocating for forced treatments of these fuckers. Hell, I'd deport and quarantine them in a remote island where they can slowly die of diseases and what not, I don't care.

If in 2025 you still need to believe in dumb shit like unicorns, skydaddies, and conspiracy theories like a 5 year old then you don't have the right to live liek any other healthy adult, you should be considered mentally deficient and treated as such. Sorry, you are not competent to raise children, these poor kids deserve better.

Lock em um

I'm sorry, but I'm not sorry. These people habe been ruining this world since forever and it has to stop. I'm out of are, I'm out of mercy, I'm out of patience

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Downvotes from people who don't like this authoritarian stance.

Fuck em, this is one authoritarian stance I share. If your kid dies because you made the active decision to feed them nothing but fruit, you get arrested. If your kid dies because you made the active decision to leave them in a hot car, you get arrested. If your kid dies because you made the active decision to not get them vaccines, you should be arrested.

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[–] mkhopper@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Made even more sad given that, as a child, he likely received the MMR vaccine.

These fools never seem to think about that part.

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[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

Isn't it just saline and the dead or weakened measles virus?

This is an old vaccine afaik

[–] Zexks@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sounds like a negligent homicide charge.

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[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago

She died because of their willful ignorance.

Welcome to the anti-intellectual American experience.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Everybody has do die

Maybe we make one codfin size S and one XL in this case

[–] NoxAstrum@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

I hope for nothing but horrible things for this moron. He should be charged with murder.

[–] cool@lemmings.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Texans are a whole 'nother breed of stupidity.

It's impressive how proud they are of it. And scary.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

They fought a war to keep slavery. TWICE. The only state in the union to do so

Everything is bigger in Texas, including my middle finger to Texas twice

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[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

Of course he does. He's desperate to justify his actions, because the alternative is to admit to himself that his choices killed his daughter.

[–] curiousPJ@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

I wonder what the wife thinks.

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