"Trade it"
TO FUCKING WHOM? The whole point is that you made it useless.
(Unless this is Microsoft providing some free advertising for Linux)
this post was submitted on 18 Mar 2025
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Probably going to be a ton of cheap used computers on the market in the near future for installing Linux on
The prices have already been cratering for anything with 7th gen and older Intel CPUs. Full systems seem to be under $100 now where just a year or two ago they were around $200 or more
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For people who still need Windows:
I have a 10-year-old Surface Pro 4 and I was able to freely upgrade to Windows 11 and it works fine. It wasn't technically supported but I enabled preview builds or something like that (I think I had to enable the Insider program) and it showed up as a Windows Update. I don't know if this is applicable to all PCs that don't support Win 11, but surely it's applicable to some of them that Windows says don't support Win 11.
Yes, it's known that it is possible to do that, but Windows 11 has TPU 2.0 requirements for a reason. As they say, it's for security. In my opinion, if you have to jump through so many hoops and loops to use a damn OS, just to use it as a home desktop or to use old tech, just move to Linux. You have Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Fedora KDE, Steam OS (not yet fully out), and many more. For a beginner who came from Windoes, I recommend Linux Mint. If you already have a Steam deck, for example, I recommend Bazzite (it's non-imutable) or Fedora KDE Plasma.
Edit: Sorry if I came out harsh, I didn't mean to sound like that, I just feel frustrated at how shit Windoes has turned in too
Ah, no worries. I'm just sharing for folks who might need Windows for one reason or another. It's a one time thing to upgrade either way, not a hassle at all. They might own weird niche unrepairable devices like my SP4 which may not handle Linux well or who knows. For clean installs there's that nifty place with serial keys and builds whose name I forget right now.
As for Linux, I'm kinda torn. I had my time tinkering with config files in the early 2000s in the days of Fedora Core 3 and KDE 3.x before all this Plasma stuff. The whole "year of the Linux desktop" that never came left me disillusioned, although I did enjoy the Compiz/Beryl days. It's probably better now but I'm too comfortable nowadays. We'll see if things get dire enough that I need to jump ship again, I hope not.
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i run nobara (a fedora spinoff) for a few months now, and it's a great experience, i learn a lot about how the os works and it's all visible! i feel like i modded my pc into a transparent machine - i can read up about simply every part of the os. i freakin love it :-D and all this while i can use it as before.
my last experience with linux was debian jessie - i was not so happy with that, and after i landed in dependency hell for the first time, i switched back. nowadays, with flatpaks and appimages, all those issues i was having in normal operation are gone.
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Before you recycle your Windows 10 PC (or just switch to Linux and avoid wasting resources), keep in mind while Windows 10 22H2 is ending in 7 months, 21H2 LTSC Enterprise is still good for 1 year 10 months:
https://endoflife.date/windows
To download the 21H2 LTSC, go here:
https://archive.org/details/en-us_windows_10_enterprise_ltsc_2021_x64_202301
Then generate a free license key using the Ohook or KMS38 methods via PowerShell as explained here:
Disclaimer: I haven't tried this myself so there may be some bugs/issues along the way. For my next laptop, I'm thinking about switching to Linux and specifically Ubuntu or Fedora, so this won't really impact me
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I mean, what do you expect them to say?
"Time to install Linux, here's how you chose a kernel:"
It would be funny if they struck a deal with Canonical to start offering an upgrade to Ubuntu 24.04 using some of the same dark patterns they use with Windows 11
Ugh. I'm going to have to seriously look at Linux, aren't I?
Absolutely no idea where to start with that, nor whether any of the software I need for work (or indeed anything else) is compatible, not how I'm going to find the time to learn all this.
Bleugh 😔
EDIT - Just want to say thanks to everyone for all the helpful tips and advice below. Will make it my mission this summer to at least understand Linux better and work out if it's for me. Cheers, you lovely people 👍
Linux Mint is one of the most recommended for newbies.
You can use a live CD/USB to try it out without installing.
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Installed mint on an older computer I had so my oldest daughter could have a pc for school. She has had zero problems using it.
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Windows 11 is the most secure Windows ever built
They've been saying that about every single one since that notoriously insecure one. ME, I think?
Also, I'm pretty sure that Tiny11 or the like is more secure if you consider data privacy important, since a lot of the privacy issues of Windows 11 are coming from the unnecessary parts of Windows itself..
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I took the last message I got from them as an invitation to ditch Windows for Linux. Now I wish I did that earlier!