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    [–] Gluca23@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Wow, so many wrong comments. My parents using Linux laptops for 10 years (which i give them second hand when i buy a new one). Now i set up NixOS with auto updates, and never needed to touch it again myself.

    [–] aidan@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

    Do your parents never need/want to download anything?

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    [–] douz0a0bouz@midwest.social 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Had a friend of mine rib me for "not just paying for a license (for windows)". Tried to explain that wasn't the point to their befuddlement. Smh

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    [–] palordrolap@fedia.io 228 points 1 day ago (78 children)

    99% of people want a drop-in replacement for Windows that will install and run every possible Windows-compatible application, game and device without them having to make any extra effort or learn anything new. Basically Windows but free (in all senses).

    Any even slightly subtle difference or incompatibility and they'll balk. Linux can never be that, and Microsoft will keep the goalposts moving anyway to be sure of it.

    Sure, a lot more works and is more user friendly than 15 years ago, but most people won't make the time to sit down and deal with something new unless it's forced on them... which is what Microsoft are doing with Win11.

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    [–] WASTECH@lemmy.world 119 points 1 day ago (24 children)

    I hate to be one of the “Linux isn’t ready” people, but I have to agree. I love Linux and have been using it for the last 15 years. I work in IT and am a Windows and Linux sysadmin. My wife wanted to build a new gaming PC and I convinced her to go with Linux since she really only wanted it for single player games. Brand new build, first time installing an OS (chose Bazzite since it was supposed to be the gaming distro that “just works”). First thing I did was install a few apps from the built in App Store and none of them would launch. Clicking “Launch” from the GUI app installer did nothing, and they didn’t show up in the application launcher either. I spent several hours trying to figure out what was wrong before giving up and opening an issue on GitHub. It was an upstream issue that they fixed with an update.

    When I had these issues, the first thing my wife suggested was installing Windows because she was afraid she may run into more issues later on and it “just works”. If I had never used Linux and didn’t work in IT and decided to give it a try because all the cool people on Lemmy said it was ready for prime time, and this was the first issue I ran into, I would go back to Windows and this would sour my view of Linux for years to come.

    I still love Linux and will continue to recommend moving away from Windows to my friends, but basic stuff like this makes it really hard to recommend.

    Alright, I have shared my unpopular opinions on Lemmy, I’m ready for my downvotes.

    [–] Miaou@jlai.lu 1 points 14 hours ago

    I would probably not recommend newcomers an esoteric linux distro tbh. People hate canonical but if people in academia can daily drive Ubuntu, anyone can

    [–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 1 points 15 hours ago

    Linux will never be "ready", in a large part because it's made by enthusiasts for enthusiasts, and most of those people just don't understand how an end user thinks.

    I got annoyed when my new Windows machine immediately had to install a bunch of updates, which only required me to click next every fifteen minutes or so, and I had to uninstall Onedrive and disable the news feed on the lock screen.

    I'd have taken it back if I had to spend that much time actually researching, I've got far better things to do with my time.

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    [–] silverlose@lemm.ee 37 points 1 day ago (14 children)

    I used to think I could just stick to macOS. But I don’t trust the USA and by extension, I don’t trust Apple.

    Switching to Linux isn’t a choice anymore. It’s a requirement for freedom.

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    [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (11 children)

    Question: Would I still struggle to get games working on a desktop using Linux as I have in the past (always some driver issue for some crucial bit of hardware; either the GPU can't do 3D or the NIC doesn't function, etc) or would they work as well as on a Steam Deck, that doesn't have to account for a variety of hardware differences? Almost every single person I have seen lately saying gaming on Linux is awesome now, is using a literal device designed for it. But what about my hardware? Is getting wrappers for nVidia drivers still a fucking PITA with a 50/50 chance of actually working correctly?

    I love Linux for just basic computing needs or running servers. But I've always had a bad time when trying to play games.

    [–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

    Question: Would I still struggle to get games working on a desktop using Linux as I have in the past

    Maybe.

    1. The Linux side problems are long since fixed. Games developed with modern engines just work on Linux.
    2. The vast majority of older "this is for Windows only and we fucking mean it" games work perfectly on Linux with Proton anyway. Some require 3 minutes with a search engine to pick a preferred version.
    3. nVidia is still going to nVidia.
    4. Weird DRM bullshit is still going to weird DRM bullshit.

    would they work as well as on a Steam Deck, that doesn't have to account for a variety of hardware differences?

    Hell no. There's a reason we love the SteamDeck so much, and want to see the Steam Machine return.

    Almost every single person I have seen lately saying gaming on Linux is awesome now, is using a literal device designed for it.

    Yes. It's fucking amazing. Lol.

    But what about my hardware? Is getting wrappers for nVidia drivers still a fucking PITA with a 50/50 chance of actually working correctly?

    nVidia hasn't improved, to the best of my "fuck those guys" knowledge. (Meaning I'm not the most informed since I carefully avoid their chips. Lol.)

    But the entire SteamDeck costs less than most graphics chips. It's not equivalent, but that's where my "fuck it, life is short" energy currently is.

    I've heard nice things about other graphics chip makers, but I'm waiting with my SteamDeck docked for a Steam Machine console, myself.

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