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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 147 points 1 week ago (18 children)

We view the late 40s through the 70s as a golden age for the American middle class. People raising families off a single income. Yearly vacations. Affordable higher education.

Know why?

We taxed the ever-loving fuck out of the wealthy back then.

Then the wealthy bought the politicians and stopped that from happening.

And now we're all sad.

DO. NOT. VOTE. FOR. ANYONE. THAT. DOESN'T. RUN. ON. TAXING. THE. WEALTHY. MORE.

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 136 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

I'm over 30 and I'm pretty fuckin' miserable, too!

But I guess I was actually paying attention to how fucked things have been politically since I was able to start voting pushing nearly 30 years ago now.


In regards to the actual article:

The researchers say they were able to pick up on the distrust by asking whether or not people believed someone would return a lost wallet. Compared to the Nordic countries, people in the U.S. were more likely to underestimate the kindness of others.

“It requires that strangers are to be trusted, that they will go beyond the call of duty and be kind and try and get it back to the rightful owner, or drop it with the police, which means you need to trust the police,” De Neve says. “That single item of the wallet drop is very powerful.”

There's literally, literally a flip side to this "lost wallet" equation in the US as well. Have you ever been the person who was kind enough to return a lost wallet? Have you also ever been the person who was accused by the person you returned it to of stealing a bunch of things (like cash) out of the wallet? It's actually a fairly common occurence in the the US. So not only is there distrust in whether or not others will return a wallet, there is a valid distrust by people who find lost wallets that the wallet owner won't lie about the original contents of the wallet and accuse them of theft anyway. At what point does it just become pointless to bother with returning a wallet at all if you're going to be accused of a crime because you did the right thing?

Apologies for (slight retch) a reddit link:
https://old.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/1j1yqt9/found_a_wallet_with_200_and_i_returned_it_to_its/

Bottom line: The US is filled with selfish untrustworthy fucking maniacs.

[–] metaldream@sopuli.xyz 52 points 1 week ago

This lack of trust is literally the main goal of mass media, especially right wing media. When everyone else is your enemy, you won't work together with them for your own benefit. Instead, you'll trust the strongman to keep you safe from all the fake danger.

Social media accelerated this by an incredible amount. Today's America feels like a completely different society from the one I grew up in the 90s.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The only time I found a wallet I returned it to the owner. The owner was suspicious as fuck towards me and treated me like I had stolen it even though everything was still in it. I literally picked it up off the ground, looked at the drivers license, and headed inside the store to see if they could page him and ran into him on the way in. The people I told about it were all pissed towards me for actually returning it and not just stealing the money.. It was basically unanimous that I was wrong for doing this and some of these people were friends I thought were good people up until that point. It really fucked up my faith in other people. Next time I'll just leave it be.

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[–] Derpenheim@lemmy.zip 126 points 1 week ago (2 children)

No shit, we're being taken over by literal nazis. This place sucks.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 67 points 1 week ago (7 children)

To be fair, a non-insignificant amount of the men under thirty think things are so bad because the Nazis aren't taking over fast enough.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 94 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Almost zero chance of buying a home or affording rent. Prices going out of control on almost everything. A Nazi in the White House and social media so toxic it melts your mind. The beatings will continue until morale improves. What a terrible place we have created for the next generation.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemm.ee 48 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Also your minimum wage is shit for a “first” world country. $7.25?

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

In the state with the highest minimum wage in the country, Washington currently at $16.66, you can still work full time and be unable to afford a 300 square foot studio on your own. It's nigh impossible to work full time at minimum wage in any state in the US and actually be able to get an apartment on your own.

Further, many rentals are increasing required income levels and instead of requiring your monthly income to be three times the cost of rent, they're pushing for your monthly income being four times the cost of rent. Also, renters insurance has become a requirement, not just a nice thing to have. If you let your renters insurance lapse, you're breaking your lease.

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[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 75 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

When asked how miserable millennials are, the response was overwhelmingly unchanged, in-fact the generation regards itself as having the shittiest life experience marked by late-stage capitalism, and the adoption of a boring cyberpunk dystopia. US millennials largely see retirement as something impossible, as many cannot afford homes, cars, or healthcare.

See, that's why they just mention under 30s, because it's far worse for the rest of us.

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[–] Sho@lemmy.world 75 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It pisses me off so much because the goddamn problem is RIGHT IN FRONT of everyone's eyes and yet so much energy is spent on bullshitting the masses....I want off this ride

[–] seeigel@feddit.org -5 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Is it that clear? What is the problem and what would be your aproach to a solution?

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[–] FollyDolly@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not just under 30. My husband is disabled and if ACA or VA benefits get cut he will die. Horribly but slowly, in our house where I will have to take care of him until the end. And pray we still have enough of a functioning society to bury him when the time comes. How I am supposed to feel anything other than horror and dread for the future!?

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 51 points 1 week ago (5 children)

dude...americans OVER 30 are miserable too

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[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 50 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I’m 41 and I’ve been miserable since elementary school.

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[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 1 week ago (18 children)

Checking in with the chorus of over 30s that basically don't expect good things to happen again.

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[–] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 1 week ago (20 children)

I'm European, and I get miserable reading about the USA.

It's also quite telling that I see so many American expats here nowadays. It used to be quite rare, usually if you met an American living here they would be either working for an American company, or have a relationship with a local.

Now, I'm just meeting a lot of super talented and smart Americans who took a major paycut just to not live in the US anymore.

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[–] WaxiestSteam69@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Those of us in our mid-50s aren't exactly happy either right now.

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[–] venotic@kbin.melroy.org 36 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Oh and it isn't like Americans over 30 are any happier?

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