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The title is err, not correct because the top 2 alternatives Opera and Arc are based on Chromium engine. I have seen tons of people swear by Arc, but I am seriously asking (since as a Linux user I can't use it), how much good can a browser be in this day and age if ultimately it's ad blocking breaks and it will since Manifest v2 will go soon(unless Arc folks have a solution for it)

The rest alternatives are Firefox, Zen (FF fork but honestly Atleast this was something new I learned from this article) and Tor (which is weird since it is not meant for normal web browsing and using it will not only be slow but put additional strain on the nodes, correct me if I am wrong).

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[–] milk@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Its actually pretty important that some normal traffic does flow through tor. If you dont mind the speed then its perfectly okay* to do all your web browsing through tor

*there are some caveats here but its not about the network really

[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 110 points 1 week ago (13 children)

I switched from Firefox to Floorp and haven't looked back. Less bloated, same features, haven't found an extension that isn't compatible yet.

Same with Fennec on Android.

This article is pretty poor overall. Why recommend Arc, a browser that requires a user account to even open a webpage, and which the author himself said will probably be disappearing in the near future as part of their own product strategy?

Lame clickbait aimed at nobody.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What do you use on Mobile?

[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Fennec. I've also used Mull before now. Both are pretty decent drop in replacements for Firefox

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 1 points 3 days ago

Thanks Fennec I use, I haven't tried Mull yet. Sounds dumb but I'm constantly looking for Android FF forks so I can use them for other profiles. Really wish mobile FF would get proper profile support.

[–] IncogCyberspaceUser@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Why did you go with Floorp vs the other FF forks? Just curious.

[–] clot27@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago

For me, librewolf focuses too much on privacy sacrificing features, I personally dont like zen's design. There's others like waterfox but didnt tried them

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[–] Madbrad200@sh.itjust.works 96 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Darken@reddthat.com 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This list to me feels like AI trying to average the commoner internet

And the comments here really show it

[–] chonkyninja@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Opera is and always was trash.

[–] BlueEther@no.lastname.nz 100 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I beg to differ, when Opera had its own engine and wasn't Chinese owned - back in the early '00s.

[–] kirk781@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Opera also was a good alternative on Symbian phones right or whatever OS Nokia used before they switched to Windows Phone, I think.

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[–] kobra@lemm.ee 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

this era of the internet was such a fun time.

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[–] Damage@feddit.it 17 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Opera was so good. Disable images, force custom CSS, gestures! Stuff no one else had at the time.

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[–] klu9@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 week ago (3 children)

As someone who used Opera 2002-2013 (Presto era), I quibble with the "always".

But I do not quibble with the "is".

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] Brotha_Jaufrey@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Great opportunity to mention Brave is owned by a dipshit right-wing homophobe.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

Always has been.

Right beside the fact that their monetary model relies on user activity tracking. Yet they advertise privacy.

A browser that had a seemingly unlimited budget for advertising before it even had users is suspicious as hell.

I've never trusted brave.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And funded by a right-wing billionaire who owns the largest corporate intelligence agency on the planet. Your data is not safe with Brave.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Except your data not being safe with Brave doesn't depend on who owns it. It's a technical conclusion that should follow from technical traits of a system. Those are such that using a modern web browser to do modern web things is not secure period.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 days ago

You identify as a liberal politically, don't you?

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 37 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Me using Firefox until Orion comes out:

[–] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Orion will be restricted to Apple ecosystems, no?

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 3 points 6 days ago

It currently is, but they are shipping a Linux version this year.

[–] natch@lemmy.today 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Honestly I wish Kagi would build their own full Firefox fork and maintain it independently. I already pay for search, I wouldn't mind paying for my browser if it actually respected me!

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[–] Viri4thus@feddit.org 33 points 1 week ago

ZDnet 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Eww opera, at least it's slightly better than opera gx

Edit: TOR? I stopped treating this guy seriously once I read this. Nobody uses TOR for regular browsing. They're full of shit.

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[–] Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Zen browser is really nice imo. The developers update it very frequently.

One drawback is that it lacks widevine support, which means that things like netflix won’t work.

[–] Propheticus@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Zen looks nice and some of the UX concepts (workspaces, glance, split sidebar from vertical tabs) work well. The 'fit & finish' and the way changes are pushed (unilaterally? Unvalidated with endusers?) feels very much like a 1 man hobby project though.

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[–] lemon@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago (17 children)

I’ve really been enjoying Vivaldi. It’s also Chromium-based. It’s easy to customize and it has really good tab management. You can group tabs into workspaces, open split panes, and – this one I really appreciate – you can stack tabs by domain. Added bonus is that the company behind it, Vivaldi Technologies, is Norwegian, which ticks the ‘shop European’ box for me.

As for ad blocking, the shittiness of manifest v3 made me look at options outside the browser rather than rely on extensions. These days I pass all my traffic through adguard, which filters out ads from the request responses. All in all this has been a positive step, because now I can play around with any browser without ever seeing ads.

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[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ironically, I could not reach the end of the list because the fucking ads kept reloading the page and scrolling me to the top. Anyone know which of these 6 would block that?

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Anything Firefox based with uBlock origin. Don't see a single ad or anything on mine.

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[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago

Firefox
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