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So Elon gutted Twitter, and people jumped ship to Mastodon. Now spez did... you know... and we're on Lemmy and Kbin. Can we have a YouTube to PeerTube exodus next? With the whole ad-pocalypse over there, seems like Google is itching for it.

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[–] Eggyhead@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (5 children)

First I’ve heard of alternatives to YouTube. Do they pay content creators the same or is it just people posting for free there?

[–] django@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago

They are just offering the free service of video hosting. There are no advertisements and no paid accounts, so all they could share are costs, not income. They are not an advertisement/monetarization service.

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[–] Thedogspaw@midwest.social 5 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Youtube is great as long as you don't read the comments

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[–] TheLuchenator@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

its really interesting how much we want an alt to common social medias now imo. for example, streamers are migrating from Twitch to Kick, and as you mentioned, Youtube to PeerTube/rumble

[–] k1k@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

All these companies are constantly pushing just how greedy they can be and it's getting so tiresome. Short term gains and shareholders are the worst thing to happen to a free Internet aside from governments

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[–] tiredofsametab@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I wouldn't for the reasons mentioned by others.

There's no monetization; I would have to find, attract, and deal with sponsors on my own.

There's not really much in the way of audience which makes the above harder since I would need numbers/

There's also the whole thing about bandwidth.

Then there's all the sysadmin stuff to do, security updates, etc.

Then there's still the legal and other admin roles, presumably, about DMCA, etc.

I do not have the time for any of that right now.

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[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I see the switch from YouTube will be the final move, because it is has the most hurdles to overcome. Smart people will eventually figure out an efficient way to get things rolling. Fingers crossed it's soon!

[–] Drewelite@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago

I think this is super interesting, and a really good idea. But as others have stated in this thread, very costly.

However until technology catches up, maybe we could have an interstitial federated platform. One that's super decentralized. Like 90% of the users running their own instance, decentralized. Anyone with a NAS can host they're own vids. Then the other 10% that are willing to host high bandwidth, high capacity servers, can work as caching for the most popular videos.

[–] arth@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Have a look at tilvids.com. I know of a couple of large YouTubers that crosspost their stuff there, and there are probably more that I don't know about.

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[–] mim@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Doubt it, it's expensive to host and creators won't have ways to ways to monetize it as easily as YouTube.

Also, I wouldn't really call the Twitter and Reddit cases "exodus". As much as I would like to see the fediverse succeed, the number of users on mastodon and Lemmy are just a blip on the radar.

I still see the same links on my Lemmy frontage days after they have been submitted, it's far less active than Reddit.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I hate this notion that a platform isn't successful unless it has a billion users. As long as there's a critical mass of people, it's fine. One thing I've realised browsing lemmy for the past week is just how much of my Reddit experience was defined by the same handful of Twitter screenshots and rehosted tiktoks being reposted over and over again like every week.

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[–] GunnarRunnar@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

Would creators actually move there? Say what you will about YouTube but at least they usually compensate the creators.

[–] Tom_Winter@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago

If Youtube blocks Adblockers, maybe.. but I think ppl will go to Odysse&Co first

[–] Somewhereunknown7351@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Replacing YouTube is a bad idea

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[–] pkulak@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Gotta be a way for folks to get paid. Most of the folks I watch on YouTube do it for a living.

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[–] holothuroid@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's unlikely. Both Reddit and Twitter speak or at least spoke to people who enjoy a certain image of being anti establishment (in one way or another and whether that's warranted or not). Youtube just doesn't. You can't get more mainstream than Youtube.

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