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[–] idefix@sh.itjust.works 29 points 4 days ago (3 children)

So many reasons for parents to give a big push when the children are 18.

So many reasons children want to get out at 18.

[–] radiohead37@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, no psyop conspiracy needed.

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[–] marte@lemmy.eco.br 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

This is less a psy-op thing than it is a product of Western society's history - and I don't mean it as in "capitalism is bad and everything I don't like is caused by it", but literally living in such individualist society makes people live or want to live in smaller groups as much as they can afford it. And it dates before capitalist rise, in my opinion.

However... I don't think living in smaller groups, like living alone or with a +1, is inherently a bad thing. As people said here, there may be multiple reasons one would like to departure from their parents' house, a lot of them are genuine and to have this option is a good thing. What I see as a bad thing is that each house is meant to be a world by its own and in some places and contexts we don't have any community bond. This phenomenon contributes to anomie in Durkheim's sense, in my opinion.

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 16 points 4 days ago

Depends on your family.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

YES thank you, finally somebody says it. I couldn't muster the motivation to make this exact thought into a post yet even though the idea has been going through my head for a long time.

Of course, if every person uses their own house, you need lots of houses which "stimulates the economy", i.e. it shifts wealth from the pockets of the workers into the pockets of the construction companies, up from where it goes partially to the owner's pockets, partially to the wages. Yet with every iteration of the game the owners grab a bigger and bigger piece of the wealth, until it is all accumulated uphill. Consider:

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

It's a bit thick on the wages and thin on shareholders but the concept is right

[–] ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

10 extra... How many fucking kids did you have, and then you'd want them to all stay after they are 18???

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

I believe they were going for 10 extended family members. e.g. 4 grandparents, 2 "adults", 4 kids. Kinda like this:

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago

I came back later when I realized family is important to me.

[–] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 days ago

We're going to start fetishizing "living together" now because the rent is too damn high.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 11 points 4 days ago (5 children)

People used to be able to do all that solo working as a janitor.

I work as a janitor and I can't even fucking feed myself all the time.

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Indirectly, maybe.

I also think it’s mostly just shitty parents, possibly who also had shitty parents, that forced the “hard knock life” on kids to make them “tough” and self reliant. Assuming they weren’t just regular old being abusive in some form. Being poor can also drive people out, if someone isn’t earning money in an already economically tight situation it can create a lot of friction.

Americans have a kinda messed up family life. This “self reliance” that separates the family unit and attempts to make it a standalone entity against everyone else really doesn’t reflect the way a lot of the rest of the world operates with closer family and community ties. Even not too long ago America was a lot different in that fashion. Probably WW2 and the growth that followed were the main shift.

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

i love my family! the love however is at odds with knowing what its like to live in the same house as my family

[–] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I would need dramatically more distractions and mental health if I had to live with my parents still

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 days ago

Shame my house would be pretty crowded in that situation. Although those pod bunk beds look fucking sweet and could work.

It's certainly cheaper to get the pod bunkbed that will make any child scream with excitement than it is to buy a larger house which will leave them bored while all their stuff is moved and likely move them away from their friends.

Unfortunately I can't live with my parents. I probably won't have kids, but if I do, I doubt they could afford to live anywhere else. Not unless I leave the US. It's rough here.

[–] Manmoth@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Humans have lived in multi-generational homes forever. Moving out at 18 or right after college is a 20th century psyop. It doesn't make sense unless you're getting married.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (6 children)

This is a great point, until you want to ask your hot date to come home with you.

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[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Would girls still want me if I said I lived with my parents as a 30 year old grown ass man that can't afford his own place?

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I guess a part of the problem is the stigma:

People have been told that whoever still lives with their parents is a loser, and that's the actual reason why it repells girls.

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[–] Nightsoul@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Moving out was the best thing that happened to me, had zero privacy at home

[–] primemagnus@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

And then turn around and give massive discounts if you buy bulk, raising the cost of living alone to almost double to that of a couple or small family.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Look I don't have a bone to pick with the idea of multigenerational living. It's a system that works great for some families. For me though, the most peaceful day of my life is going to be the day after my mother dies. I sometimes dream about how incredible it will feel to know that vile crone will never be able to hurt me again. There is no amount of money you could pay me to live with her again, I've chosen homelessness over it before. No banker's conspiracy did that.

We should absolutely destigmatize the idea of living with your parents, but it is not a solution to our housing crisis. If anything, this rhetoric is similar to that employed by corporations regarding recycling. It pushes the responsibility onto individuals not doing enough, rather than looking at the large levels of corporate property ownership that is the root cause of our crisis.

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