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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/29244629
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I use Yandex a lot now for not censoring me. Maybe I'll have to try this.
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I'm not a spy or part of the government, but Yandex is Russian... I tried them like 10 years ago, but I wouldn't take my chances with them.
Its a search engine, what are they going to do, give some guys search history to Putin?
I generally use it for finding streaming sites.
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I'll only switch to yandex if it's obvious that Google (via startpage) is censoring my results. Or if I'm looking for a torrent or something.
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Does anyone still think their data isn't being sold even if they pay for a service? Plus now it's associated to your payment information. These are the same guys that spent all their runway funding on Tshirts, I don't think they're the sharpest knives in the drawer.
Does anyone still think their data isn’t being sold even if they pay for a service?
Very possible they're too small to have a meaningful contingent of buyers. But I wouldn't bank on it.
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You can use privacy pass and pay in crypto
I'm not fathoming what Privacy Pass gains you, it's tokens generated from your account, the chain of possession is obvious throughout. The tokens get used up and removed from your account and the logged-in browser extension generates more, but there's no "privacy" involved there.
Fair enough on the crypto.
Kagi literally documents how this works in their blog post about it: https://blog.kagi.com/kagi-privacy-pass
Perhaps you should start reading before writing?
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“Paid search engine” <— no thanks.
More like yes please, I get better results and better customization, and no ads or paid results.
It makes my life easier and speeds my workflows up. And unlike free alternatives I almost never find myself reverting to Google.
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Fine for you. I’m just glad there’s an option besides “sell your soul” and “invest hundreds of hours and dollars into self-hosting”.
Upvoted.
I have a counterpoint to those claiming that paid are better. By using a privacy oriented search engine, then they don't know exactly who you are. In theory just your IP. Maybe fingerprinting.
When paying they know exactly who you are. You have to trust them.
So in one case you can protect yourself, in the other you have to trust them.
Also, Kagi also uses the Russian index Yandex 😑
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Log into browser extension with kagi account
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generate tokens
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use said tokens
How does this ensure privacy? The tokens are associated to your account from the start.
There’s a link in the second paragraph to the technical details, including source code for the implementation and documentation for the required infrastructure.
But the tl;dr is that the tokens aren’t associated to your account. Unless you were able to snoop on the original request that generated the tokens (in which case, you’ve got bigger issues!), there’s no way to prove that a token is related to a specific account. A token only proves that an authorization server once granted access to some account.
Edit: Wikipedia has a good intro:
Non-interactive zero-knowledge proofs are cryptographic primitives, where information between a prover and a verifier can be authenticated by the prover, without revealing any of the specific information beyond the validity of the statement itself.
Edit 2: You should not be catching downvotes. You had a reasonable question.
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