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I remember a time when visiting a website that opens a javacript dialog box asking for your name so the message "hi " could be displayed was baulked at.

Why does signal want a phone number to register? Is there a better alternative?

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 33 points 1 day ago (25 children)

Bots. If it makes you feel better, you can disable other people finding you via phone number and just give them your username. All messages are private.

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[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 day ago

Everything is a balancing act. Privacy, anonymity, and security aren't the same things. They're sometimes, and in some aspects always, difficult to achieve without compromising one of the other two.

When you add in the goal of quick, easy setup to make the service useful in the first place. Doesn't matter how good the service is at the trinity if nobody is willing to use it. Signal just errs on security first, privacy second, anonymity third.

[–] XenGi@feddit.org 32 points 1 day ago (14 children)

One of the design goals is that they don't have a user database, so governments etc can't knock down their door demanding anything. By using phone numbers your "contacts" are not on their servers but local on your phone.

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[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (7 children)

Signal is not perfect but we control its app, libre software. See SimpleX Chat.

Escaping WhatsApp and Discord, anti-libre software, is more important.

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[–] moreeni@lemm.ee 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's focused on ensuring there is no middleman between you and the other party, but it does not have a goal to provide anonymous messaging. Sadly.

[–] coconut@programming.dev 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

no middleman

Signal is not P2P

[–] moreeni@lemm.ee 3 points 22 hours ago

Of course. Sorry, but I meant no middleman as in minifying the role of the server in your messahing. Signal's goal is to ensure the server cannot have access to your messages and its only role is to receive and send data.

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[–] coconut@programming.dev 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you want to be mainstream a) you can't have spammers, scammers, and all the other scum of the earth and b) finding your contacts in the app HAVE TO be plug and play. Literally no normie will bother adding with usernames or whatever.

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