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[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

The Schumer Strategy. They just can't give it up no matter how many times it fails. (they will try again)

[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 228 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Yah they do every time, even when they win. Every side chooses billionaires and Americans alternate being fed up with one side so they vote for the other. Rinse repeat, the rich always win

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 101 points 1 week ago (43 children)

I've been saying it for the past two US election cycles .... the US is a one party state with two different organizations representing just one political party.

The Chinese have the Chinese Communist Party

Russia has a ruling class of Oligarchs

The US has the Republican/Democrat Party

All three operate in the same way

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 75 points 1 week ago (6 children)

“The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.” - Julius Nyerere

“ The United States effectively has a one-party system, the business party, with two factions, Republicans and Democrats.” - Noam Chomsky

People have been saying it for decades and decades, if not a century or more.

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[–] techwooded@lemmy.ca 185 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Telling too that the Democratic leadership said after the fact that one of the reasons they lost was that they relied too much on small donators instead of billionaire donators. Disgusting

[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 75 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Weren't they the ones touting their 'largest warchest ever' sometime around Harris taking up the mantle last year?

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 36 points 1 week ago (5 children)

They were. Where's that money now?

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[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 38 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Which of course means they’ve learned absolutely nothing, and we can look forward to more of the same awful messaging and misguided/corrupt representation next time.

Dems need to be replaced with a new party, I know FPTP is a challenge but the alternatives are worse.

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[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 100 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Harris just disappeared, has zero interest in actually being a leader, has zero interest in spearheading a democratic movement, is doing jack shit to help make this transition easier through good will projects, she literally doing nothing, yet I’ve started getting please gib money texts with her name on them again… maybe if she hadn’t pulled a vanishing act we could at least talk but like, wtf is she even doing that she needs my money? I don’t even live in her state.

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[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 99 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Based on what we know now, Harris would have been a bad president. She lost and didn’t ask for a recount when she should have and then disappeared. AOC and Bernie on the other hand have taken a stand against fascism. I’m with them not the d’s.

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[–] mcv@lemm.ee 82 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was so excited after she picked Tim Walz. It was starting to look like the most progressive ticket in decades, she was ahead in the polls, and then she turned around and started campaigning with Republicans and CEOs. Total betrayal.

And yeah, she disappeared. I hear more from Biden and Obama than from her.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (7 children)

She made an imaginary rule in her head that she had to copy 100% of Biden’s polices no matter how unpopular.

The Democrats were offered a total reset from Biden’s unpopularity and instead decided to repeat it all. It was incredible how they threw away what should have been an easier victory.

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[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 70 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I’m pretty far left of Harris ideologically and never really liked her or thought she was worthy of these powerful offices. I also never really expected that much from her. That being said, I was passionate about dropping Biden and supporting her campaign even at that late hour, given the immense implications of electing trump for a second term. I donated money, and rallied friends and family to get on board. Then she did that DNC speech and talked about the ‘strongest military’ yadda yadda yadda. All of that energy and enthusiasm instantly evaporated. Nothing she or her campaign did after that motivated any active support from me and I had to really fight off the urge to not vote for her. I’m entirely done with the Democratic Party as run by the current regime. Unless that party reforms, the US is absolute toast.

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[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 60 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I blame it mostly on Biden refusing to drop out, but yes political consultant bullshitters and billionaires are a huge problem. AIPAC especially.

[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 49 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

The ire I hold for the DNC is difficult to understate. They outright lied to us about Biden's health and ability to lead, despite the populous being blatantly aware of it, and spent 4 years pissing away their time to protect us from fascist uprising. It's literally their jobs to prevent this kind of thing and they dropped the ball so hard to protect corporate interests. This is but two points in what I'm sure would be a massive litany of complaints if i were to be exhaustive. They are utterly worthless to the working class American and yet we are stuck with these bloodsuckers.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

To be honest I'm not even sure DNC has authority over Biden. If Biden says, '"fuck you I'm staying" the DNC has no authority to say otherwise. Within the context of Biden who if one knows his history of politics, being shunned again might force him to double-down more.

I despise the DNC ever since Hillary but I'm fairly sure many of them knew Biden would fuck us but had no power to say otherwise. Maybe I'm wrong?

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 45 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I'm fully convinced they slow rolled the Trump prosecution so that they could use him to fundraise. I'm half convinced they slow rolled it because they were going to just let it slide if it was clear Trump was going to stay out of politics, because the ghoul club looks out for each other behind the scenes.

And yeah, there's an actual laundry list of places where they fucked up hard on this last election. A non-exhaustive list includes:

  • Lying about Biden's condition/ not pushing him to step aside because the establishment democrats considers seniority to be the holiest of all political attributes. It's why they were SO pissed that Obama cut Hillary off and they went on about "it's her turn!" in '16. Tbh, it's probably just as much a part of why they shut Sanders out in '16 as him being progressive. Anyway, this meant that we had basically a sham primary. Yes, it was a real primary, but we all know the incumbent always wins the primary, and they lied over and over about his condition until that shit was over with. So, no, I don't think you can really say it was a fair election, because voters were deliberately deceived by their own party.

  • Colluding to get Biden put in. I know someone's going to come and tell me that the '20 primary was 100% legit and totally not sketchy at all, but I'll never forget Biden showing up to those debates looking like a freshly reanimated corpse and, all of the sudden, he wins South Carolina (which I do consider legitimate) and all the other candidates start dropping out and giving their delegates to him (which I consider illegitimate because it really smelled coordinated and allowing candidates to pledge their delegates forward is sketchy AF). To me, this is the original sin here. Biden wasn't a god awful president, but they knew he wasn't the best candidate they could possibly run, they knew his history, and I will never ever be convinced that they picked Kamala because she was the right person for the job. They picked Kamala because she landed some absolute body shots on Biden about racism in the primary debates, and they needed to clean that radioactive spill up. I think they felt that the most expedient means of doing so was for Joe to get Kamala. I don't think for two seconds that Kamala was Joe's choice. This wouldn't have been all bad if they'd committed to working on polishing Kamala up and getting her out there in the public eye and grooming her as a viable independent candidate a la Gore, but they didn't. They kinda just shoved her into the broom closet after Biden won and only dug her out after he blew his legs own off on the debate stage. So, that stupid fucking maneuver to shut Sanders out in '20 gave us a president that not many people were excited about; a VP that neither the president, nor the DNC, nor the people liked who would go on to be his natural successor on the campaign trail; all while ensuring that said VP had no distinct political image, and even, due to the righteous trait of seniority, forcing Kamala to assure voters that she absolutely adored Biden's unpopular policies.

  • The DNC didn't even trust their own candidates. Don't get me wrong, I don't think Kamala is God awful; I wouldn't have picked her, but she had enough good qualities to work with to stand on her own if they'd trusted her. This is especially true with Walz on her team; they had some real potential if the DNC had got the fuck out of the way and stopped focus grouping them to death. Instead, they picked Kamala and played up what little leftist cred she had and then foisted HRC's campaign staff on her, made her talk about limited means-tested small business aid, and got celebrities to make guest appearances. They got Walz for his incredible shit talking abilities, then muzzled him. They saw the campaign starting to make its own identity separate from Biden and screamed "NO, YOU'LL DISHONOR OUR SPECIAL BOY. HE WON'T KNOW, BUT WE WILL!" They saw the populist moment, the people crying out for change, and went "hey, shut up, offer them means tested tax assistance. Here's Obama lecturing down to our base, that always goes over well".

  • They abandoned their strategy of talking about what a dangerous fascist Trump was after that kid in Pennsylvania nearly started a GoFundMe for Trump's family. Trump didn't stop being a dangerous fascist, but the appearance of decency was more important than speaking the truth. If Trump didn't want to get his goddamn brains blown out, maybe don't go having fascist rallies in open fields. But it gave the perception that they didn't really believe that he was a dangerous fascist, that they were just saying it until they realized it was dangerous to say it. This was a huge mistake, imo.

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[–] orclev@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not to mention their perpetual blackballing of anyone actually progressive in the party. The neoliberal arm of the DNC has done nearly as much damage to this country as the Republicans have.

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[–] twinkbobdylan@pawb.social 51 points 1 week ago (3 children)

i wish bernie won in 2016 :(

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I know Gore won in 2000, we just gloss over the theft and the nazis scream about rigged elections because every accusation is a confession.

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[–] carlossurf@lemmy.ca 48 points 1 week ago

He is 100% right like always

[–] Soliae@lemm.ee 44 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Proper headline:

“Harris Chose Billionaires Over Working Class; Voters Chose to Burn It Down Rather Than Submit to More Democrat Pretending”

If the choice is between a fast death with Trump and a slow death with corporate Democrats morphing into Republicans, can we really blame folks for choosing a fast death?

We need progressive, true left politics if we ever want to recover.

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[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Democrats got paid to lose plain and simple

[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 48 points 1 week ago (3 children)

They make more in donations when they're the minority party who shouts about things they'll never ever fucking do and decry horrors they'll quietly continue when it's their turn.

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[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago

Corporate democrats #1 policy: protect the 1% at all costs

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (13 children)

I don't have a ton of confidence the working class would choose someone who did choose them. Bernie is that candidate, and shenanigans aside from the dem primary, he didn't swing a landslide.

[–] jmf@lemm.ee 47 points 1 week ago

Most of the US working class still hates and fears the things that benefit them, such as socialist policies and unions. Propoganda dies hard.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"A lot of the people are saying it was Joe Biden's fault that Kamala Harris lost the election … not true. It was the fault of Kamala Harris and her consultants,"

Full clip here

He also said "I ran all over the country to try to elect her" so it's a pretty longshot from these comments claiming both sides bad. If all of you, everyone eligible to vote in 2024, had listened to Bernie Sanders then Kamala Harris would be president and none of this would have happened.

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