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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 2 days ago (17 children)

this is exactly what i said to a friend today

actually, in a few years, maybe the young people won't spend their time on instagram, because it's all bots anyways. maybe then the young people will enjoy living outside of their screen-devices again, and physical life could get a revival.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 5 points 2 days ago

When I was a teen, way before the internet, if the outside didn't hold much appeal (usually because it was raining) staying in my room and reading sci-fi and listening to music and stand-up comedy on cassette was a viable option. I'm ok with going back to that. My ebooks directory runneth over.

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I can literally never use Reddit again but all.my search results keep taking me there

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[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (16 children)

I don’t remember it that way. To me, it was a minefield of viruses, popup ads, chain mail, and unexpected extreme NFSW content.

Everything improved a bit when browsers started limiting recursive popups and hidden executables on websites, but for much of the late 90s and early aughts, every click was risky. And oh my god the design of things. I was so happy when the tag finally fell out of fashion.

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[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (11 children)

It's so interesting. My partner is still on Reddit and she was complaining to me about the massive amount of bots, trolls and general negativity. My response was basically, yeah, that's why I left and don't miss it one bit. I found a much better place that has actual discussion and nowhere near that level of toxicity. I asked her if she wanted to know about it and her answer was just "No". LOL. She's also a fan of super drama filled reality TV so I guess if you like one you like the other.

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[–] kender242@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago

"The Matrix was redesigned to this, the peak of your civilization. I say your civilization because as soon as we started thinking for you, it really became our civilization..."

they were spot on.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 33 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It was so human a lot of usenet was properly unsavory.

Because that's what humans are, mostly.

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[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 days ago (7 children)

It was, but... this morning I pulled out my pocket computer that also can make calls, started streaming the Disco Elysium soundtrack, and proceeded to drive across two cities. There were no pauses or hiccups in the stream.

The early 2000s mind cannot comprehend this.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But surely if you hit any bumps while driving, the disc skipped, right?

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[–] the_wiz@feddit.org 6 points 2 days ago

I was there, even a couple years before that... and in reality not so much has changed.

What we now call "The Internet" is what BTX (in germany) was back then: A commercialised platform controlled by corporations. Trolling, hate, ragebait... all nothing new, just look at archived posts from the Usenet!

The cool thing is that we now can rebuild something that is more akin to the BBS networks of yesteryear, something like the Fido-net, something that is entirely owned by the people using it.

[–] zanyllama52@infosec.pub 12 points 2 days ago

I would argue was even more the case during the earliest days of the web. It was really a open, untamed, wild west feeling, like anything was possible.

Then the corporatization of the internet happened during the dotcom bubble, and all hell broke loose, we know the rest.

[–] AugustWest@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes and no. It's important to remember that people lied and wanted to rage: but it was annonymous and we knew everyone was full of shit so it didn't matter.

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[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (7 children)

completely ahistorical, the Internet has had the same problems for basic its entire existence

[–] mad_lentil@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 days ago

It was for sure toxic af, but a lot less commercial. Actually the early internet was incredibly hostile to corps, but then the banner ads came, and the eyeballs, and the ads started actually making more money than just server costs, and it was all over.

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[–] 4grams@awful.systems 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

It sucks because it’s beginning to feel like a life wasted. I got in early, my career pre-dates the 1st .com crash. My first browser was Mosaic, then shortly became Netscape with the big pulsating “N” animation.

I LOVED the early internet. I loved the personal sites, webrings, IRC and newsgroups. I remember the first time I spoke with someone on the other side of the world (hello to my Canberra friend, it’s me, your midwestern buddy). I felt part of something that was new and exciting and fun.

Then ads came and it’s just gone to shit ever since. To the point where I now hate being online, all my shit is selfhosted and I barely interact with anything besides lemmy and mastodon (they still feel like the actual internet).

I used to be slightly disappointed my kids didn’t turn out as nerdy as me. Now I am just thrilled that I was able to be a cautionary tale for them.

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[–] Chewget@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago

It ain't years it's months ago...

[–] onion_trial@europe.pub 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The big tech industry products are like that. There are still small communities which are meaningful, peaceful and friendly.

Take a look at knockout.chat

[–] PartyAt15thAndSummit@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh, that's what the old Facepunch forum evolved into, right? Yeah, that was a really nice place when I last visited, but that was years ago. I just felt like I had grown out of it.

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[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

As per examples through history, greed and profit chasing have completely ruined what once belonged to the people.

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