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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago (2 children)

like.. were a nation of immigrants. it's part of your identity in the US.

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[–] selkiesidhe@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

My dad's side of the family was supposedly Irish. Bunch of reprobates and thieves. I would admit to being related to none of them even if they could prove it with papers lol

Nothing against Irish people. Just thought I'd share.

My maternal great-grandfather fled Ireland after the Civil War ended because he was a republican fighter. Does that count?

[–] Sergio@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Guatemala is awesome. The countryside is beautiful and the people are descended from one of humanity's major civilizations, the Mayans.

I realize OP is only half-serious, but they still come off as really ignorant.

[–] Omnipitaph@reddthat.com 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

As someone who is doing a massive research project on the Maya peoples right now, that civilization was technologically way ahead of the game! They had toilets with a sewage system, clean aqueducts and water purification measures, and ball sports a thousand years before the colonizers that fucked em up. A THOUSAND YEARS.

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 11 points 2 days ago

Not to mention the 200 000 people cities when in Europe a 50k city was considered big

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[–] supernicepojo@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We as Americans lack a certain amount of culture, we look to our pasts and see what it is our families have come from. So many Irish came here, for so many reasons, the cultural heritage barely came with it, leaving a big gaping hole in what we tend to identify ourselves with.

I like to use the analogy of the Native American Indian who was displaced and massacred, captured and forced to go to Indoctrination camps as children. Where they applied the β€œkill the indian, save the child” methodology, abhorrent to think of, its not far off from cultural genocide.

So, we look back and find our parents and grandparents nationalities, where they have come from, we adopt what little we know of what it means to be Irish. All thats left here is Irish bars and St Patricks Day, Boston and Chicago. Americans will happily tell you about their heritage but its not a long story to tell. We are the children of immigrants striving to find a way to make a home and anyone else to connect with for community.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I agree with 99% of you comment but

We as Americans lack a certain amount of culture

Is just plain false.

American TV, film, music, fashion, food, technology food and to a lesser extent sports are so influential on the world stage they aren't even thought of as American half the time.

Like it or not, half the world's wearing blue jeans drinking coca cola watching Hollywood movies or posting about it on shitter while rock or rap plays in the background.

[–] supernicepojo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I thought that would be the point I would get called out on. I tried to phrase it around what capitalism makes, its such a short sighted cultural influence that bears very little of what we internalize. I see our American influence everywhere, but we still lack something more concrete to anchor our individual identities.

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[–] psychadlligoat@piefed.social 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I use it to explain my massive capacity for alcohol

"I'm scotch/Irish on one side and German on the other, 3 generations both sides and they bred in the community until my parents!" as I'm on my third boot and finally starting to slur my speech lol

[–] BigPotato@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I usually joke "The Polish in me knows how to drink, the Irish in me doesn't know how to stop."

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[–] sness@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

My great grandparents came to the US and claimed to be Irish. We strongly suspect this was a lie and they were German but arrived during a time where Germans were... unpopular.

[–] Mist101@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Uh, 'scuse me, I am proud to be Irish ~and Scottish, both from about 400 years back~ I take pride in my heritage by regularly listening to Celtic music.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

come out ye black and tans, 24/7/365

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Good news, you can start listening to Kneecap now!

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