Total obliteration seems more merciful than the eternal torment promised by Christianity.
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You were expecting the storm god of the Sinai desert, maybe?
A Short Stay In Hell
Short novella based on this exact premise. If you have never encountered it before, I urge you to give it a read. It's excellent. Also very disturbing.
Honestly, given the available evidence, this is just as likely an outcome as any other.
this is the source of a lot of my existential dread. I can't logically refute it, at most I can acknowledge it's pointless for me to worry about, but I can't stop myself from worrying about maltheism.
Any supposed supreme deity who hinges the eternal fate of their own supposed creations on a wild ass guess isn't one that is worthy of worship, adoration, or even basic respect. If a being with the sum total knowledge and foresight of literally everything can't devise a better system that any random ass person off the street, I wouldn't worry about it.
They either don't exist at all, or they do and everyone is fucked because we exist in the playground of omnipotent super beings that are somehow also absurdly stupid. One of those outcomes is more likely than the other. I think you know which one it is.
That's one of the reasons I like 40k. "God is real and he hates us" is a central theme. Sure it's edgelord material but its also a fun thought experiment. For me. I can see why it would upset you though.
check out the demiurge if you've never read about it
Oh yeah I read a bunch of Gnostic texts in my younger days. Interesting stuff.
Well, he gave his best shot. Next time he might try a more rigorous vetting system rather than just picking the most popular one in his home town.
"I'm afraid it was the MORmons. Yes, the MORmons were the correct answer." --The Director of Hell (Southpark)
That's the first place my mind went, as well.
What's hilarious is that in another episode, Satan asked God to accept Saddam Hussein into heaven so he could know true eternal torment living with the Mormons.
Pretty much the reverse of this:
What's this from?
Oglaf (potentially NSFW).
"potentially" lol
"Frequently, but not always."
That link shows the latest comic, and they're not all NSFW.
Thank you I recognized the style but for the life of me could not remember the name.
Probably they would've killed him for being heretic and meet god again in a short time.
Nah, Sithrak's followers are chill, they know eternal torment awaits everyone eventually, there's no rush; they just spread the horrid word, no need to implement it themselves.
I mean as far as religious teachings go, "Stay alive as long as possible because there is only eternal torment awaiting you" is a pretty decent thing to get people to try and follow.
Egalitarian, too. Sithrak doesn't discriminate. Everyone will burn, regardless of race, gender, or creed.
The fact that Sithrak is actually a pretty nice guy and doesn't do that makes it even better.
Refreshing for a religion to worship a god they say is evil and be nice guys rather than what usually happens, worshipping a god they say is good while being full of hate.
Of course, that's how you know it's fiction, any worthy religion from real life would have him burned at the stakes as soon as he claims God said the sacred books are wrong.
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Zororo hasn't stopped the souls coming in to obliterate.
Must be the highlight of it's day.
Nah, he just thinks the sins of the father pass to the son and he's a bit salty about why the tribe went extinct.
All Pharisees will face such.
The Christian god eats souls. The more chaste you are during life, the more energy he obtains. That's why he started the religion.
The light you see after death is like an angler fish, guiding you to your consumption.
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Al hail the great ZORORO
May they blast me into sweet oblivion of nothingness as soon as I die, existence isn't for me.
Pascal’s Wager states that reason cannot determine which, if any, god(s) exist (although it’s commonly simplified to just the Christian God), so it is best to choose to believe in one particular arbitrary god on the off chance that that one particular god is real (and behaves like the Christian God). If by some fluke chance your guess is correct, you get eternal paradise in the Good Afterlife; if your guess is wrong, which it probably is if you were to forego any logical deduction in selecting from a vast pool of hypothetical gods and an infinite pool of gods that nobody has yet to even ideate of, then you would eternally suffer in the Bad Afterlife if the Other God exists, and you would experience no harm in the absence of an afterlife if no God exists. Pascal argued that the risks of reward vs. punishment meant that believing in God was the logical choice to for one to benefit oneself, rather than a belief in God being a logical choice of reality.
My rebuttal to this is that hypothetically only those who believe in an afterlife will necessarily go to the Bad Afterlife and suffer forever, whereas disbelievers in an afterlife will either go to the Good Afterlife or to no afterlife at all. This scenario may sound arbitrary and made up, but I don’t make the rules of the universe— that’s on a hypothetical and mysterious God to decide, if such one exists. The existence of a God/universe with rational or irrational motives to decide that those who believe in an afterlife must go to the Bad Afterlife forever… is as unknowable as the existence of Pascal’s God. Personally, I don’t believe in an afterlife since I wouldn’t want to take my chances with a belief in an afterlife dooming me to the Bad Afterlife, but my disbelief doesn’t make the hypothetical any less true. You may consider the possibility of such afterlife criteria to be an illogical assessment of reality, but Pascal also acknowledged that his wager is contingent upon foregoing a logical assessment of reality in favor of what would logically benefit oneself.
Pascal's Wager, as well as other "logical proofs" for God like the Kalam Cosmological Argument, never get Christians or other religious people anywhere they want to go. Even if we accept their conclusions as given, it tells us nothing about the nature of that god. They want their god to be the one, and that doesn't follow from any of these. Which is what the comic in OP is getting at.
As far as the conclusions go, worshiping the Flying Spaghetti Monster is as good as any.
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