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A growing network of online communities known collectively as the “manosphere” is emerging as a serious threat to gender equality, as toxic digital spaces increasingly influence real-world attitudes, behaviours, and policies, the UN agency dedicated to ending gender discrimination has warned.

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[–] Fedditor385@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (26 children)

It's quite simple, gender equality should stand for equal opportunity for both genders, but it's not. I only see women being pushed into places with traditionally male majority, but not men being pushed into places with traditional female majority. And worst of all, equal opportunity should not mean we will hire a less competent woman that a more competent men, to fill out some 50/50 quota.

This is exactly the result of abusing gender equality.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (12 children)

I only see women being pushed into places with traditionally male majority, but not men being pushed into places with traditional female majority.

As a positive counter-example, I'd like to give a shoutout to German childcare. In 2022, 17.9% of under 20yolds, 12,6% of under 30yold childcare professionals were men, contrast with 2% among 60 and older. There's been an active effort both from the professional organisations as well as operators to increase the ratio, right-out masterplanned it, and they're making strides. As a side-effect: Plenty of young female childcare workers now don't feel weird at all about wrestling with the boys. Not that "boys need movement because their gross motor skills develop before fine motor skills" was unknown back in my days but the vibe was either "grandma watching you build wood block towers" or "grandma watching you at the playground".

There's three aspects to this: They recognised that "women know better than men when it comes to childcare" is BS and recognition was given to masculine styles of parenting, with that the pattern of dealing with the few men that were in the field by "promoting them out of sight", that is, into administration, was abolished, and finally an active push to advertise the job to men.

Not sure whether the ratio will ever reach 50:50 or whether that's even important at all, stabilising at 1/3rd or such would be plenty to ensure that things are even-keeled. If you rather become a construction worker I'm not going to tell you to go into childcare instead, and vice versa, not everything that's not 50:50 is due to gatekeeping. Women aren't going to become saturation divers en masse, and that's fine.

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[–] FloMo@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago (22 children)

I only see women being pushed into places with traditionally male majority, but not men being pushed into places with traditional female majority

Genuinely curious, got any examples of “traditional female majority places” that masculine individuals cannot enter/participate in?

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[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 19 points 4 days ago

And it started from that valid criticism and then takes the viewer on a tour by various faces and influencers to pull them into more and more into right-wing territory to radicalize them. Once in that box, they're not getting out again. It's a right-wing conveyor belt.

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[–] Breezy@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (63 children)

Bill maher touched on this last night on his show, and i cant believe im seeing more of it.

He argued men are shat on far to often in todays media with female leads taking more lead roles.

He also brought up countless movies starting in the 80s that pushed the dumb dad/male narrative that persists today.

Does he have a point? Yeah idk really.

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

Pretty much. Misandry feeds misoginy and viceversa, if you don't temper your discourse and make it reasonable someone else will come and make you temper it

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