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[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sometimes, it's more important that you enjoy the thing than the thing being objectively good. There is merit to objectively analyzing things, and there can be enjoyment found in doing so. There is also merit to just enjoying the thing you like. Both are valid.

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[–] Owlboi@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

i can enjoy a movie i think is objectively bad and vice versa.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

Agreed. Especially with ritualistic movies like cult classics and holiday movies. The experience surrounding them is more important than the content.

[–] yyprum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

Enjoying a movie, having fun watching it, is not an indication of its quality. It is acceptable to enjoy bad movies, nothing wrong with that, I've watched plenty of movies I consider as bad but still had fun and a nice time watching them.

Defining the quality of a movie by the enjoyment you had is like defining the quality of a painting by how realistic it is. A painting might be good even if it is surreal, unrealistic or abstract, and a realistic painting might be crap, so the quality of the painting is not tied to simply how realistic it is. The same way there are movies that are fun and enjoyable but not "good", and there are movies that bore most people and are a master piece.

While with a painting defining the quality is simpler (simpler yes, but not simple) as it is the creation of one person normally, for movies it gets incredibly complex as there's so much to measure and its the work of so many people; the script, the acting, the photography, the score, the directing, the stunts, makeup and dressing, FX, ... There's a lot that can be good and a lot that can be bad in the same movie.

At least that has always been my perspective, I have no issues admitting to not liking something despite how good it was, and loving something that I knew was not good. Some examples that come to mind: I love the matrix movies, love watching them, yes, in plural, that doesn't mean the second and third are good. It feels like there were too many issues in them to make them good, but I still had a good time watching them. On the other hand, I feel like a movie like 2001 is of unquestionable quality, yet I always feel somewhat bored watching it and would rather do something else.

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Know how to tell of a person is a movie snob? They'll tell you.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I hate going into a movie with expectations. That’s the quickest way to end up hating it. Even if I might be a fan and am looking forward to a particular film’s release. It’s far easier just to go in to a film with few expectations. Things that make a movie “bad” for me are: bad acting, bad writing, bad effects, or bad plot contrivances. IOW, something so egregious it pulls me out of enjoying what I’m watching and draws my attention to it.

For example - the new Star Wars films. They were fine for a cast of relative unknowns. Yeah, they had some heavy handed writing in spots that was bad, the worst being the pointless casino and kid scenes in the last one. But regardless it was fun. The previous three otoh had a stellar cast yet some of the worst wooden acting, writing, and the abuse of digital SFX was offensive.

(Best SW film made was Rogue One, IMO, tied with ANH because that introduced us to the franchise and had no baggage.)

Of course this is all movie dependent. Spoofs and the like or comedy are entirely different vs something like a drama. One won’t be held to a high standard, the other will need it to keep the audience engaged.

[–] Underwaterbob@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I have pretty low standards. I enjoy a good schlockfest. That said, the new Star Wars movies were awful. Genuinely awful. I watched the first two out of some sort of misguided loyalty to the franchise and hated almost every minute of both. Rey is possibly the blandest frontwomen in any movie, ever. She does nothing to earn her Jedi powers, and even less with them. Kylo Ren is a whiny baby with daddy issues. The first sequel tries so hard to be A New Hope, but just has none of the charisma or charm. It's sad.

I did like Luke's last stand, but there was so much else wrong with that movie, it was like putting fresh whipped cream on a cake made of shit. It's been years now, and I've barely considered watching the third at all. I don't think I have heard someone say a single good thing about it.

You could certainly skip the third. I hate to say it, the movies would probably be better without Ren and Rey.

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 2 points 1 week ago

This is more an arthouse thing for me, as if the story becomes completely incoherent I just assume it’s expressionism and I’m being challenged.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

I think a lot of movies fall into that category tbh it takes a lot of qualities to stack up for the movie to be bad or good and most fall somewhere in the middle

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Being I watch plenty of bad movies I have sorta the reverse. 90% of the time im like, did I just waste two hours of my life.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago

so its sorta funny but I feel this comic applies to my reply on this. https://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/1673201256-20230108.png

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