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Words matter.

Always use simple direct language.

  • Help the poor
  • Healthcare for everyone
  • Good treatment at work.

Don't use complex words.

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[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Just want to point out that this negative association is based on racist dog whistles like the, "welfare queen," which were propagated by right-wingers to convince low-income whites to hate the programs designed to help them.

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[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Could you share the source for the graph please?

[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Its listed, UChicago NORC. I can only find raw data from NORC from 1973 to 2014 when I search though.

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago (6 children)
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[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Americans are one of the most gullible populations on Earth. Russians are worse...but Americans are not far behind.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Americans, what a bunch of morons

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fox News: "Write that down. WRITE THAT DOWN!"

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Soon there will be a critical mass of people who have nothing left to lose

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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)
  • Help the poor
  • Healthcare for everyone
  • Good treatment at work.

I like the idea, but I don't think those are very well phrased.

Take "help the poor". When you say "the poor" it sounds like you're talking about a certain group of people who are born poor and die poor. Often the characterization is "the poor" are that way because of personal failings, like that they're lazy. Nobody wants to think of themselves as poor, and they definitely don't want to consider themselves part of "the poor". So, even poor people are going to have a bad reaction to being told that we should "help the poor".

IMO, a better slogan would be something like "Help people who fall on hard times." because it makes it more clear it's temporary help, and that it's not their fault. I think poverty should be eliminated, and billionaires should be, ahem "eliminated", but I think the average American would be much more likely to accept a social safety net rather than expected to continuously help "the poor".

For "healthcare for everyone", I think the issue is that it sounds like people are imagining high-end luxury healthcare for everyone at no cost. Something like "basic healthcare for everyone" is something more Americans would accept, and is more likely the kind of improvement you could actually get from American voters. Those of us who live in developed countries are used to the idea of "equal healthcare for everyone", but I don't think you could get that past the average American voter.

As for "good treatment at work", what American actually thinks that they'll get good treatment from their employer? Americans are used to thinking that it's a doggy dog world out there, and don't expect loyalty or love from an employer. What's reasonable is fairness, so why not "fair treatment at work" or "fair treatment for workers"?

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Ok but most Americans want us to help the poor. They just wish we'd find a way to give the poor money that wasn't that evil welfare

[–] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago
[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Psychological damage is present.

[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nobody is immune to propaganda

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[–] SuperCub@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I get the critical comments here, but I think there's a basic association of the word "welfare" with the CURRENT system of assistance which leaves too many people out. Democrats have made the current apparati too hard to qualify for with their means-testing. If they were sincere in working for the masses, they would push more universal programs, but at least on the national level, they are bought out by the same corporations as the Republicans.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Did the study define the kinds of assistance at all or was it simply the choice of terms?

“Welfare” is defined and had a lot of baggage with it. Opinion about welfare can be wildly different individually and demographically.

“Assistance” isn’t defined, people can place their own restrictions on what that hypothetical assistance is, who gets it based on their own prejudices, needs, and ideology.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Nah, see, you're falling into the trap. "Welfare" has baggage only because conservatives have attached baggage to it via their relentless propaganda campaigns. In practice, welfare is literally just assistance. In practice, the two words are synonymous. The fact that you perceive a difference in them is evidence that the conservative propaganda is working.

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