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I don't remember what caused the Voat's origin, except it involved Reddit HQ. And then it went under in 2020.

What's different about this time and with Lemmy to make it a feasible alternative to Reddit? Is it random chance?

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[–] mookulator@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

People seem super jazzed about the decentralized nature of Lemmy and other stuff in the “fediverse”. I don’t really understand how it works but it seems cool that Lemmy isn’t a single company/website. Can’t have a power tripping CEO or a board that panders to shareholders that way.

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[–] Phantom_Engineer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (14 children)

There was one Voat. When the one Voat goes bust, Voat goes bust. Like any enterprise, it's failure can be attributed, at least in part, to poor management.

There are many Lemmy's. If one Lemmy collapses, another Lemmy can take its place. The individual instances might be less stable than a centralized social media site, like Voat was, but when federated the whole unit is more resilient than centralized social media.

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[–] JediDP@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I don't think Lemmy will have the same fate as Voat. Voat was just loonies going...well....loose. This time, its all of Reddit users.

[–] SeatBeeSate@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh my god I forgot voat existed. Isn't that a far right hell hole now?

[–] athaki@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

It's gone now, thankfully but yes it turned into an alt right paradise before it went kaputt.

[–] squishysquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

self hosting. voat got too big without a real income stream, when the guy throwing money at it backed out it was done.

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

After trying Voat and Rukkus a while back, Lemmy seems very different in a good way. Those other efforts felt like libertarian tech bro attempts that imploded under the weight of their own dumbness.

[–] zeekaran@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I still don't know what kbin is.

Honestly though Lemmy needs a rename. The musical artist is significantly more popular and it screws up searches.

[–] Motorhead1066@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] HouseOfJazz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Lemmy Kilmister of the rock band Motorhead

[–] Motorhead1066@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hmmm... I'll check em out sometime.

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[–] wildeaboutoskar@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Good point. I know SEO isn't the be all and end all in a federated world, but if we do want this place to grow we do have to make it easy to find.

Both 'Lemmy' and 'kbin' aren't the most memorable names

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

This is just the start of Reddit's board going for the big money. It's at odds with a volunteer modded site and volunteer created content. Mods aren't going to be happy to do unpaid work just so the CEO can get rich. This API stuff is just the first exposure of this conflict. As more mods wonder why they are doing this for free just so what's his name gets rich, more will abandon Reddit and come to Lemmy.

[–] tylerthehuman@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

holy shit i remember voat.

[–] gerowen@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Well for one Lemmy is open source and federated. It's not one site, so even if the developers get tired of fooling with it, the servers don't depend on them and other people could take over development without express permission from the original developers.

[–] LostCause@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I think due to the decentralised and open source nature, it‘s much better and even if some instances die the project persists. I‘m in IT and it looks like a solid project which has me excited and thinking about how I could contribute. My feelings coming here were also hope for better and a freedom from corporations.

Voat was just another corporation out to make money off hate I guess.

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