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[–] Oneshot@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 6 days ago
[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 507 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (23 children)

The pathological need to find something to use LLMs for is so bizzare.

It’s like the opposite of classic ML, relatively tiny special purpose models trained for something critical, out of desperation, because it just can’t be done well conventionally.

But this:

AI-enhanced tab groups. Powered by a local AI model, these groups identify related tabs and suggest names for them. There is even a "Suggest more tabs for group" button that users can click to get recommendations.

Take out the word AI.

Enhanced tab groups. Powered by a local algorithm, these groups identify related tabs and suggest names for them. There is even a "Suggest more tabs for group" button that users can click to get recommendations.

If this feature took, say, a gigabyte of RAM and a bunch of CPU, it would be laughed out. But somehow it ships because it has the word AI in it? That makes no sense.

I am a massive local LLM advocate. I like “generative” ML, within reason and ethics. But this is just stupid.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 248 points 1 week ago (1 children)

When I'm browsing around with multiple tabs open, the last thing I want is something to start moving them around and messing my flow up. This is a solution looking for a problem.

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[–] Godort@lemmy.ca 104 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

The pathological need to find something to use LLMs for is so bizzare.

Venture capital dumped so much money into the tech without understanding the full scope of what it was capable of. Now they're so in so deep that they desperately NEED to find something profitable it can do, otherwise they'll lose the farm.

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[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 219 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)
browser.ml.chat.enabled   false
[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 80 points 1 week ago

about:config
in your address bar

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 64 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You only disable the chat. Overall setting seems to be browser.ml.enable.

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[–] 58008@lemmy.world 147 points 1 week ago (23 children)

Literally no one on this green earth asked for this shit. In fact, we've been pretty direct about how much we don't want it.

It's exhausting.

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[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 125 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (12 children)

Now, several users have taken to the Firefox subreddit to complain about high CPU usage when using the feature, as well as express their disappointment in Mozilla for adding AI to the browser.

I don't think it even downloads the model if you never enable or use it.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@piefed.world 104 points 1 week ago (12 children)

I love that people get upset that their CPU is using its resources when they're using it.

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[–] Mika@sopuli.xyz 99 points 1 week ago (11 children)

TBH despite I don't like this specific idea, nor use Firefox directly, I do like the usage of local inference vs sending your data to thirdparty to do AI.

They just needed to do it OPT IN, not OPT OUT.

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[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 91 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Firefox really does seem to have lost the plot... they don't seem to go five minutes without slamming their dick in another drawer. It starts to look like they're in to it.

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[–] pheggs@feddit.org 85 points 1 week ago (20 children)

I wish Mozilla would just debloat the browser, focus on performance and making browsing a good experience. But unfortunately their revenue situation is bad. At this stage, they won't even manage to survive through donations after annoying their main user base.

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[–] pycorax@sh.itjust.works 83 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Instead of capitalising on Google pissing off power users with its crusade against adblockers, why the hell is Mozilla fucking up so hard here? Seriously, which chain of command green lit all of this and didn't even think this would be remotely an issue?

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[–] nectar45@lemmy.zip 77 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Firefox is a good example of "either you die a hero or live long enoigh to see yourself become the villian"

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 102 points 1 week ago (20 children)

It's also an example of a smaller company trying fight a mega Corp with infinite money, gained via unethical means.

People are shitting on Firefox while ignoring what they are up against.

I have no solution for their funding issue, what are they supposed to do? Charge for the browser or ads? There's literally no other alternative and I don't know what the solution is.

What I do know is that once FF dies and chrome fully owns the web we are well and truly fucked.

Honesty it might already be too late.

[–] scholar@lemmy.world 66 points 1 week ago

They could stop paying their CEO so much and hire a few more devs, refocus their identity on privacy and performance (their offline ai translation is actually really useful), and actually give people the sense that their donations will be well spent.

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[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 71 points 1 week ago (4 children)

According to the article, this is mainly for grouping tabs with a suggested name. Talk about backwards. Use AI to process the top websites on the Internet and create groups and/or logic to group them by keywords (cluster analysis), then save the small data structure in Firefox so it can group most websites instantly, using kilobytes of ram in the process; don't try to do this on everyone's device ffs.

Besides the heat and battery problem, this also means that the GUI is going to be non-deterministic, suggesting groups differently day-to-day based on the slight differences of input and the whims of the LLM. Burn it with fire.

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[–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 66 points 1 week ago (11 children)

I just want a web browser that's not based in the USA.

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[–] themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 59 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Mozilla does it again, adding useless crap.

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