Thanks! I'll upvote this for visibility.
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This is a result of the original design. Kbin, up until just before the peak traffic hit, was using boosts as upvotes and favorites/likes were just below the post/thread (where boost sits now). Lemmy does it the way it is now (likes = upvotes) so Ernest changed it to match Lemmy behavior. But just as he changed it, he hadn’t changed the calculation for reputation to match when the server nearly melted down and he has to spend all his time just trying to keep the site alive by himself.
Respect
I see you’re on a different Kbin instance. Was this intended to be a threaded reply, out of curiosity? Because it shows up as a top-level comment on the post for me.
He using an optional feature that lets you auto populate your reply box with the OPs username.
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the dev of kbin will be changing this. so up/downvotes are what affect your reputation. It's just not a priority right now
Do we know if there have been any releases since the influx of users? Or are they just focusing on backend stuff still?
There's still a lot of long hanging fruit *COUGHcollapsingthreads that would be great to have addressed sooner rather than later.
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It's just one guy. We were a bit worried if he was even sleeping when the first big wave hit and he kept everything up by cloudflare and prayer.
Surely @ernest has some help at this point? Needs to start delegating or finding trusted maintainers if not.
Yeah there are a bunch of us in the dev chat now. Some of us have set up our additional kbin instances such as myself. I’m still looking through the code and getting up to speed but hope to contribute to the main code base soon. (Right now I’m experimenting with some features I wrote on my instance)
So yes, it’s mainly been Ernest up until this point but he is starting to get additional support from the community :)
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There have been fixes submitted by volunteers, but I don't think they've been reviewed and approved. And I don't think there have been any new releases.
Hopefully things pick up speed now that Ernest has a server admin to look after things here
Yeah, there's a PR for collapsing threads, but I don't know when it will come to release.
You can have a look here to see a test instance with some of the things that are coming, Ernest (the admin) has been merging in a range of tickets including bug fixes, UI improvements and other bits.
There seems to be an ever growing backlog of feature requests and bug fixes in the issues list but a fair bit is getting sorted out behind the scenes.
I'm mostly focused on UI/UX for mobile.
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I really don't know which is which and what does what, so I just click them both
upvote = does nothing (for now) boost = upvote (affects reputation points)
So sometime in the future an upvote will be used to score the post and get it on the "frontpage", and a Boost is just like a save feature to save posts to my microblog?
i wouldnt call boost a save feature per say, but since we arent on mastodon it pretty much looks like one so i guess you can call it that lol. yes, eventually the reputation will be fixed and upvotes will affect it as it should, its just not a priority for now
Not crazy about the design. An upvote should be an upvote. If the upvote is useless, why is it even there?
It'll be changed soon™, so upvotes will boost reputation.
Read some of the other comments. It doesn’t sound like you’ve been following much of the chatter about the site very closely.
I click ALL the buttons and nobody can stop me!
Reported! But it's nothing personal :)
As someone from Lemmy land this confuses me.
Have an upvote!
I think it confuses everyone. I have no idea why these two things exist in KBin. It's a complete mystery the thought process that went into it.
Although the name "boost" is a little odd. kbin is more than than just a link aggregator. kbin is also a semi-blogging platform (View the microblog feed rather than threads) that interacts with Mastodon. If you boost something, it is the same as reblogging (re-tweeting) a post and generates a reblog post on Mastodon. The developer is going to change it to where the up and downvote impacts reputation rather than the current boost and downvote button. A technical oversight but they acknowledge this and plan on changing it in the future however internet points is not really a priority so no one knows when the change will roll out.
This is the answer.
This finally made it make sense for me. Thank you
Because kbin can interface with content from mastodon AND Lemmy.
The boost is for mastodon/microblogs, the upvote is for Lemmy/threadiverse.
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Do upvotes/boosts and downvotes pass from one instance to another? I assume not. So if I upvote a post from lemmy.world that's hosted on kbin.social...what happens? It only affects lemmy.world?
The votes are federated but peeps post from time to time that they arent perfectly synced.
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Boosts are retweets, upvotes are favorites. So upvoting means you "like" that content, and boosting is kinda like sharing it to your followers.
Importantly, boosts republish posts and comments. This is meaningful because groups work by basically boosting anything that mentions it, or which is in reply to something that mentions it. And posts silently mention the group.
Why is this important? Well, if you're the first person on your instance to follow someone on another one, you don't see anything published by that person earlier than that. But if that person regularly boosts older posts, you'll get to see them.
So boosting posts and comments triggers the group to re-boost it, sending it out to servers that started following after the original publish time.
Basically, boosting is how we make sure new users on remote sites see older content.
Why doesn't Kbin have the [+] and [-] buttons for collapsing or opening comment threads? Or, if it does, where can I find that setting?
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There is no boost on Lemmy instances, though
What happens when a kbin user boosts my Lemmy post? What happens when I upvote their post? So many questions
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