What do you guys think? Stick to older used cars and not use an EV or look at which of the manufacturers have the least bad privacy policy?
Stick to older cars. Learn the way of the wrench. End.
this post was submitted on 14 Oct 2025
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Automated license plate readers (both fixed abd mobile) means old cars are tracked as well.
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I was lucky enough to buy new in 2017, just before all the ridiculous privacy violations hit the fast lane
By the time this car is done for, I will have no option available that is not a privacy violation on wheels... jailbreaking/hacking will be my #1 purchase criteria of whatever my next car will be
Your phone is tracking your every move.
Your cell provider is tracking many of your moves by seeing what cell towers you are talking to.
Your phone is only tracking your every move if appropriate spyware is installed.
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Correct me if I'm wrong:
Like a "Smart" TV you can just not connect the car to the internet and ignore all the features requiring a SIM card or phone connection.
I'll just use a phone mount and ignore the infotainment shit entirely besides offline features if it comes to that.
I'll pull the dashboard apart and wire in a dumb radio/mount it somewhere.
I'd even find and destroy the antennas if I have to. I'll buy 3rd party ECU if I can't. Exhaust all options.
I can drive old cars too but eventually that gets unrealistic and hard to maintain.
Ahhh sorry but since a few years ago they all have automatic internet access for safety "reasons" which.. we need a name for sucking air in through the teeth they abuse thoroughly. And even long before that, the data is stored in the vehicle for upload when a connection is made.. unless you want to build a faraday cage around your car, you're tracked at a creepy level.
I think after the big degoogeling, we have to have to talk about the cars. I seriously wonder if their eu versions even are flashed without the more disturbing trackers. I seriously doubt there is any concern over it even since it is not talked about. Like they said in the article, this needs to rile people
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Older cars is the key, something without electronic/network based maintenance systems
You will spend more maintaining those older cars than buying a newish used car. Depending on what age of course, but things wear out and eventually they become hard/expensive to fix.
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How is the old Zoe there? It even asks for consent for maps data.