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[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 15 points 6 days ago

Come on steam deck, we need more users of you! This will drive Linux as a real contender in the gaming market and steam is driving that.

That was probably like 75% BF6 players.

Makes sense, even just for playing old games it's more optimal. Be it for graphics, load times, or just multiplayer if you want to play a game from say the Xbox 360 PS3 era its probably better to just get the game on PC. Also given how much of a relative flop the current console generation has been yeah...

[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

How many are bots?

[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 91 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Console gaming is so anti-consumer. Who would prefer to use a console if they are even the slightest bit savvy with a computer?

[–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

I play both. Couch gaming is simply more epic (also comfy). Glorious 7.1 surround on a couch? chefs kiss

[–] TownhouseGloryHole@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

As I just found out, if you want to play any borderlands split screen, that's console only.

[–] coaxil@lemmy.zip 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Borderlands with a controller? Oh boy ;p

[–] Nikls94@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Motion control is amazing if implemented well. Nintendo spoiled me with the WiiU.

[–] uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 2 points 6 days ago

Valve did it again with the Steam Deck. I hated first person in general with a controller. Now I prefer to play Deck over mouse.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Could run it through an emulator depending on what game in the series you are playing. I've done that for a few titles when couch co-op is happening.

[–] TownhouseGloryHole@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That's a reasonable idea. It's just hard to fathom why this is a feature not commonly supported on PC despite being available on less powerful consoles. To play local co-op on PC, I need to buy the full series for each additional player who are then required to have their own hardware. Not economical when you just want to play with your kids.

Suddenly it seems reasonable to buy one console and one copy of the game.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I believe steam remote play and Family Sharing are both designed to accommodate that issue - although that doesn't solve the hardware problem admittedly.

[–] TownhouseGloryHole@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'll have to look into that. My understanding was that only one account in the family could play the same copy at a time.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

For LAN/Offline play I believe there's no limitation. You can also have "multiple" copies (get the game for 5 bucks on a steam sale compared to console), for multiple user online play.

Remote play is for games that support local multiplayer to have another user "route in".

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

One area that I'm glad to have my console is for games that I expect the publisher to include anti-consumer bs but I still want to play. I dont gaf if they install a kernel mode anti-cheat on my ps5, but I'll never install that on my PC.

That said, I don't spend much time doing that anyways and don't have any plans to get another console in the future. And in case nintendo is listening, the switch 2 would have been an exception to that if you weren't so lawsuit happy.

[–] Maestro@fedia.io 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Console gaming is also easy for casual gamers and people who don't want to fiddle with tech.

[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 week ago (13 children)

I don’t think there is really much fiddling these days. It’s probably about as much as setting up a console.

If you build your own, then sure that’s more work. But people can buy prebuilt, laptops, or handhelds.

[–] Maestro@fedia.io 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yes there is, you're just used to it. There's all the Windows 11 annoyances, anti-virus, fiddling with controller setting and blue tooth, GPU drivers, DirectX crap. It's easy for you but if your tech experience is basically just turning on your phone then that is a lot.

[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)

None of those are things people have to deal with except in very rare circumstances. All the driers are basically handled by windows update or are already in the kernel.

You do not need to do anything with antivirus these days.

Windows 11 makes you sign into an account, so do the consoles.

Pairing a Bluetooth controller technically is something you need to do, but let’s be honest. Is it really challenging?

[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 1 points 6 days ago

All those things you have to deal with at least once.

So for someone who doesn't know how to do any of them, it is a barrier of entry. Why should they learn when they could just buy a cheaper box and be done with it?

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[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Steam Deck is as easy as any console, at least

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

Look at OS user numbers, most people aren’t the slightest bit savvy with a computer.

I’ve run into a few games that only have split screen on console so there’s that I suppose.

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[–] Anissem@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 week ago (4 children)

This next Steam console will be interesting. With all the success they’ve had from the Steam Deck it might stand a chance this time around.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

One of the main failures of the Steam Machine was that there was no baseline "steam machine." They were just a myriad of prebuilt machines running a specific OS, and was especially confusing to people not already into PC gaming.

The Steam Deck fixed that by being just one thing (pedants fuck off, you know what I mean). If their next console like offering is indeed console like and not just a rebranded PC ecosystem, it probably will see more success than their first venture in Steam Machines.

[–] a1studmuffin@aussie.zone 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I really hope they come up with some kind of certification system for games targeting Steam consoles, in the same way Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo do. All the boring stuff like making sure controllers connect and disconnect gracefully, the console can be slept/woken at any point in gameplay without bugs, consistent language/UX etc. That stuff goes a long way to making things "just work" on a platform. IMHO it's the one edge console still has over PC gaming. Even if it was an optional certification, it would give players some decent guidance as to what will work well.

[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago

They do have that for the Steam Deck.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 10 points 1 week ago

Imagine buying a new console that you can play games you got over a decade ago. And then play on your PC same save files. Then move to your portable device and play your game there too. Crazy.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

It's just going to be 1080p and slightly bigger screen.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 days ago

With the same or better battery life with a processor and memory upgrade, not a bad deal.

[–] Anissem@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That would be the successor to Steam Deck, there’s rumors that Valve is working on a standalone console.

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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm very skeptical and think there is a reason that the gameboy/handheld form factor gaming laptop and VR headset are coming first.

As it stands? For 500-ish you can get an AMD NUC to throw under the TV and use to play a lot of games locally and stream the rest. You aren't vibing to max settings Clair Obscur on that but it is well past a Steam Deck.

But the problem is that people want their consoles to "just work". It is why the Series S was such a shitshow. And to get that performance? You are looking at a lot closer to a thousand bucks than not. Which is a much easier sell when "you need to buy this to play a remake of a PS3 game" versus "you can buy this to play a lot of the games you are already playing because it is a PC".

Which ALSO ignores what is... probably the bigger problem. That AMD NUC? Good fucking luck getting VRR AND HDR to work on there. General rule of thumb is you can get one and it isn't even consistent which one you'll get. Because TVs (and receivers) run on HDMI, not Display Port. And AMD and HDMI 2.1 is like Open Source Alternatives and Raging Assholes. Can Valve get around that with some fairly hefty tweaks to SteamOS? Yeah. But it is gonna generate massive amounts of ill will when the FOSS community hear.

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[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 10 points 1 week ago

Another day, another record for Steam.

[–] network_switch@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

PC gaming emulation on Android and hopefully someday high end regular Linux phones are going to be a big inertial multiplier for PC gaming. Performance for games that work isn't far off from a Steam Deck from my testing on high end mobile phones. Compatibility and streamlining is still not great though. But a few more years at this rate and anyone with a phone as strong as a Snapdragon 8 gen 3 will have a pocket Steam Deck. PC gaming is going to grow a lot because of that

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