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[–] tino@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Anybody going there to test "how bad it is" is giving them traffic, which they can use to brag about its success. Personally, I'd rather completely ignore it and disregard whoever mention it one day as a source, which will never happen hopefuly.

[–] axexrx@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So set the VPN to Iran so it looks like it's only popular with 'ayrab terrorists' to take always his talking point?

[–] hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Thats a good idea.

[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They needed a safe space for their ideas. Less scary stuff like pronouns that make their brains hurt

[–] Eh_I@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

their

POSSESSIVE PRONOUN!

[–] ReHomed@lemmy.cafe 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Elon Musk NEVER creates anything very useful as of now

[–] ShankShill@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 days ago

Elon Musk NEVER creates.

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 days ago

I mean basically it's "Conservapedia but it takes itself seriously".

[–] Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The first thing I noticed about grokipedia is that it doesn't do a good job at qualifying the strength of sources.

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago

That was an intentional design choice no?

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

References

  1. ^ Trust me, bro
[–] Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 2 days ago

I looked a few things up... and you aren't wrong. It relies on primary sources way too much.

[–] magguzu@midwest.social 9 points 2 days ago

How long until AI models start training off Grokipedia, and we have the biggest game of hallucination telephone?

[–] kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's been fun watching Elon go from space Jesus to shorthand for any billionaire vanity project that will amount to nothing.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Anyone who knew much about space knew that was nonsense from the start, as colonizing a subantarctic volcano is literally more practical than colonizing Mars.

And that's assuming paradigm shifts in spaceflight. Turns out, they did not materialize at all. With SABRE air-breathing engines and Virgin-style stratolaunches dead, things actually went way worse than I expected years ago.

Don't get me wrong. SpaceX is great, Starship is cool, research in space is awesome. But ever since I've first read Musk's public thoughts, he struck me as 'not scientifically grounded,' and I wondered how that incongruity would shake out.


TL;DR: Truth never mattered, and it still doesn't :(

[–] Fusselwurm@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago

a powerful man with a vision can be a great thing. until it isn't.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

A collection of hallucinations sounds more like a bad piece of comedy

[–] biotin7@sopuli.xyz 115 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Remember that Elon overpromises & underdelivers

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

nah most of the time he just overpromises... rarely has he delivered anything at all, and when he does it's such a clusterfuck that the word underdeliver feels super generous.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 47 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Literally. With everything. In every business he touches. Yet the stock goes up. It's stupid.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 34 points 4 days ago

Hmm it seems the speculative market loves speculation rather than actual results...

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Not really.

Remember that Elmo just lies his ass off almost all the time.

Over promises and under delivery are such extreme understatements with him, almost everything bhe says is just pure imaginary bullshit

Lying his ass off literally is the only thing he does well, it made Tesla stocks balloon to being overvalued somewhere in 10-100 times their actual value

Remember hyperloop, that project that even high schoolers could identify as absolutely dumb? Billions and billions in investment money has been wasted on absolute bullshit that will never work.

But what about SpaceX, I hear you type?

Remember how we'd land on Mars in 2018, now 7-8 years ago? Yeah, Elmo is currently at about 1% of that particular promise. Again, it's not under delivery, it's just actual plain bullshit

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[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 59 points 4 days ago

He also gave the example of a German Wiki community member who wrote a program to verify the ISBN numbers of books cited, and was able to trace notable mistakes to one person. That person ultimately confessed they had used ChatGPT to find citations for text references and the LLM “just very happily makes up books for you,” Wales said.

Well this won't be a problem with Grokipedia, because it only uses sources that are available online as pure text (I'm pretty sure not even PDFs are used by it).

Wales thinks the public and the media often give Wikipedia too much credit. In its early days, he says, the site was never as bad as the jokes made about it. But now, he says, “We are not as good as they think we are. Of course, we are a lot better than we used to be, but there is still so much work to do.”

Amen, it's nice to see the level-headedness.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 140 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

'Not optimistic he will create anything very useful right now'

Or ever create anything (he's just stealing other people's creations, at best)

[–] overload@sopuli.xyz 60 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Truly the Thomas Edison of the 21st century.

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[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

He is not just strealing other people's creations. He is also giving them incredibly lame names.

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[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 78 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Jimmy Wales: Libertarian that ended up creating perhaps the most successful collectivist project of all time.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Reading his Wiki page, he does sound rather reasonable. Support for Occupy Wallstreet, running as a UK Labour candidate, openly calling not to elect Trump and also calling the US Libertarian Party "lunatics".

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[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 30 points 4 days ago (10 children)

this is a perfect example of why we should always allow an escape space for everyone. Sometimes that person in the space you are polar opposed too will create something that defies even their own rules

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 91 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Musk is just Nazi-washing what he stole from Wikipedia, he doesn't have the base of volunteers and employees to maintain his latest toy. A year from now, it will be gone and forgotten, and we'll all be shouting at each other to go vote.

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Guess Conservapedia wasn't conservative enough.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No, they already have Metapedia for that.

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[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 4 days ago (8 children)

It'll effect things as much Conservapedia does. A laughing stock to gawk at and nothing more.

I bet by the end of next year it's dead.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

One key difference: Conservapedia was young earth creationist, Grok is not. That amount of difference unfortunately enough to convince a lot of average Joes of credibility.

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[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

All he has to do is force it in front of people's eyes instead of Wikipedia. It doesn't actually have to be useful, just in the way.

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[–] koshka@koshka.ynh.fr 53 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It's going to become an AI written clone of Wikipedia with all the personal opinions of Elon mixed in. I don't see it going anywhere.

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[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ultimately, this could highlight the incredibly high value of wikipedia as a common ressource, and might lead to better things there.

Maybe.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 12 points 3 days ago

Awww... I wish I had that level of optimism.

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It will burst into flames, like his cars

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

All cars can catch fire, some more often, others more intensely. Doesn't matter if it's a swastikar or not.

Instead of pitting EVs against ICE, let's all push to reduce car dependence and instead encourage the development of public transit!

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 39 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It will be a another propaganda mouthpiece, and have all the credibility of Fox News.

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[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 31 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It’s not about making something useful. He and a few others are cloning everything any of their cult might use to further fence them in from external information and entertainment.

They’re having a harder time in entertainment, because artists tend to be more liberal, but they’re gaining ground there, too. After a certain point, they’ll just radically censor everything else.

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[–] VerticaGG@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 days ago
[–] PlanterTree@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What does Grokipedia say on the genocide in South Africa?

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