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Right now there is a loneliness epidemic throughout the world. More and more people aren't entering relationships. Gen Z men are having significant trouble dating while there are some economic factors in the mix. From my own view and experiences combined with what I've read most Gen Z men are lack the social and communication skills to even enter a relationship. This has and in the future will lead to extreme issues. There's already been a marked rise in hostility towards women by young men (think Andrew Tate and his ilk) that's likely born out of this frustration. I would definitely say there's been a rise in gender hostility ever since the pandemic.

Back in the 50s there was arranged marriages. All a person had to do was just show but now that's gone because it was an unequal system and I think society missed its chance to establish something much healthier and better in its wake. Now we have people that are unable to connect with each other. We just toss people blindly into the mess that is human interaction and relationships and no one knows what to do anymore. We could be have the most fulfilling relationships humans have ever had. Think of the amount of people who would of never have entered abusive relationships had there been someone around them that showed them what love exactly is.

The way we teach is so heavily focused on teaching people how to be worker drones that we forget the human part of the person. This is why a lot of people who do extreme well in school and college fare so poorly in relationships and have higher rates of depression. We are the most educated and advanced in human history, we know psychology, we can teach this shit rather than tossing people blindly into the meat grinder.

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[–] blazera@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

"But I love Kristy, and nothing will change that". It's not a rational, teachable topic. Which is why we teach contraception instead of abstinence. Tack on teaching financial well-being if you wanna improve odds of healthy relationships.

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[–] Someology@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

You should include what country you are talking about. I know nobody in the USA who had an arranged marriage in the 1950s. They met partners at school, church, and neighborhood/extended family picnics and parties for the most part. They met in stores, libraries, and cafes. We have to maintain public casual community spaces. To paraprhase a Sociology professor I once had: you can't marry someone you never meet. It requires talking to other humans to make even casual friends.

There is some merit in the suggestion. Is there a country we can look to who already has some efforts here in their educational system like maybe Japan?

I think most of our issues are less about education, although it can certainly minimize, and more about how some members of society are wired. Not all brains are the same and some see the world in a more us versus them way.

[–] SirStumps@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Back in the day someone's father would teach their son's how to court a woman. I had no real father figure growing up but I was lucky to have met my wife in highschool. I recently asked my grandmother how my grandfather courtes her and it was actually so simple.

Nowadays men and women have unrealistic expectations of each other and what relationship should be. Social media is also put a divide between us and how we communicate with each other from a very young age.

On top of this men have become afraid of failure when it comes to talking to women. This a long with social media saying you are a creep for taking a shot men have been crippled in their confidence.

I believe that social media should not be available to kids and young adults until adulthood. I believe that social media prevents people from socializing properly. Face to face communication with both sexs is crucial for humans.

[–] aslaii@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can you make a basic bullet list on how to court a women? I have a girlfriend and I want to court her again xdd.

Give us the wise words

[–] SirStumps@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lol. My Papa died before I could ask him but my Mimi told me in her own words.

  1. Meet the women
  2. Get to know women through average life events or through personal effort
  3. Take your shot
  4. .
  5. Profit

Don't be afraid of failure. In each failing is a lesson.

I have been married 15 years and it wouldn't have happened if I didn't try a second time.

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

But what about all those life coaches and self-help book sellers? Won't somebody please think of their profits????

[–] people_are_cute@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You are unfairly holding the entire world to your personal myopic standards. Romantic relationships don't hold the same importance for everyone (they aren't even held as positive by many orthodox communities of the world), and the fact that more people have started to avoid having them just out of convention in the West may even be a good thing. Who are you to denounce every single man as someone sick or deficient? Why does the existence of a relationship have to be tied to a person's social skills or standing?

[–] revv@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Read generously, OP's point can be taken to refer to relationships generally, i.e. social skills. A lack of engagement with dating in and of itself doesn't point to someone being sick or deficient, it could indicate any number of things. I don't think there's anything implied about judging individuals here.

A societal trend of young people having fewer healthy interpersonal relationships at all is troubling. We're a social species living in a world that requires a certain amount of cooperation both for societal function and individual wellbeing.

Social isolation is a killer, both in terms of its effects on the person isolated and to society at large via the actions of (a statistically higher proportion of) those who are socially isolated.

A call for ameliorative measures against such a trend is not a personal attack on anyone.

[–] xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

Both of you are absolutely right - I think that the OP's emphasis on romantic relations is actually a symptom of the fact that an excessive amount of emphasis is put on forming romantic relationships over platonic ones

[–] calypsopub@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I agree. People are unhappy because they've been conditioned to think they lack something vital if they don't have romance. When really, a lot of times we're better off without all that drama.

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