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In the greatest rebuke yet to Pope Francis, the Catholic bishops of Africa and Madagascar issued a unified statement Thursday refusing to follow his declaration allowing priests to offer blessings to same-sex couples and asserting that such unions are “contrary to the will of God.”

The statement, signed by Congolese Cardinal Fridolin Ambongo on behalf of the symposium of African national bishops conferences, marked the closest thing to a continent-wide dissent from the declaration Francis approved Dec. 18 allowing priests to offer such blessings.

That declaration from the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith has sent shock waves through the Catholic Church, thrilling LGBTQ+ Catholics as a concrete sign of Francis’ message of welcome but alarming conservatives who fear core doctrines of the church are being ignored or violated.

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[–] Gazumi@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This will be interesting! A new break away Pope?

[–] teft@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They’re called antipopes. The last one was in the 15th century.

[–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Call me a traditionalist, but I much prefer the antichrist.

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Gazumi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Oh that's just brilliant! A New Pope - I am so wishing that I'd thought of that.

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago

Defying the choice of God seems like a bold choice. Almost like there are no actual rules or punishments. Weird.

[–] aew360@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Actual religion

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What are they gonna do about it? It's not like they can write down their grievances on a piece of paper and nail it to a cathedral door.

[–] hottari@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

You are responding to exactly what they are doing about the situation!

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The same God's Will was used to justify black slavery. It sure is a versatile tool.

[–] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 5 points 1 year ago

It never could have lasted millenia if it wasn't.

[–] N0body@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago

Time to add "a new schism in the Catholic Church" to the end of days bingo card.

[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Looks like someone is trying to tell God what to do.

[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 10 points 1 year ago

You know what else would be contrary to the will of a loving God if one existed?

Being the main driver of the African AIDS epidemic that's claimed tens if not hundreds of millions of lives.

Fuck the catholic church and ESPECIALLY fuck THESE catholic church monsters! 🖕🖕🖕

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Now ex-communicate them.

[–] ArgentRaven@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

The Catholic Church thought they could pour their brand of religion into the entire continent for hundreds of years, gaining loyal support and broadening their power. Looks like they just found out they exported the bigotry, but couldn't force loyalty when they change the message.

This is the danger we keep seeing when people use a religion as a power vehicle, and wrap it in "fear of the other". Doesn't matter if it's Catholicism or something else. We'll continue to repeat history over and over because clearly it'll work THIS time and that leader will be able to control it.

[–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here comes another schism!

[–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

African Orthodox now!

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The new Protestant reformation?

[–] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 4 points 1 year ago

This time, nailed to someone's door:

"95 reasons why u r gae"

[–] DonkeyShot@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Well, the catholic church is basically a faschist organization by it's organigram. Obey to the leader you fucks or go to hell (literally).

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


VATICAN CITY (AP) — In the greatest rebuke yet to Pope Francis, the Catholic bishops of Africa and Madagascar issued a unified statement Thursday refusing to follow his declaration allowing priests to offer blessings to same-sex couples and asserting that such unions are “contrary to the will of God.”

The statement, signed by Congolese Cardinal Fridolin Ambongo on behalf of the symposium of African national bishops conferences, marked the closest thing to a continent-wide dissent from the declaration Francis approved Dec. 18 allowing priests to offer such blessings.

“Within the church family of God in Africa, this declaration has caused a shockwave, it has sown misconceptions and unrest in the minds of many lay faithful, consecrated persons and even pastors, and has aroused strong reactions,” he wrote.

A few weeks ago, Burundi’s President Evariste Ndayishimiye said “people of the same sex who marry in this country should be taken to a stadium to be pelted with stones, once discovered.” In a radio broadcast Dec. 29, he asked Burundians living abroad who practice homosexuality “not to return home.”

Ambongo said the symposium statement was a “consolidated summary” of the positions adopted by individual national bishops conferences, and said it had received the “agreement” of Francis and the doctrine office’s new prefect, Cardinal Victor Manuel Fernández.

No such extra documentation or preparation accompanied Fiducia Supplicans, as the text is known, and its rollout was marked by individual bishops and entire national conferences voicing confusion and opposition.


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