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Germany: With a result of 22%, right-wing AfD (ID) has reached a new all-time record high in the latest Ipsos poll.(from r/europe made by u/neofthe) (lemmy.world)
submitted 2 years ago by OrangeCorvus@lemmy.world to c/europe@feddit.de
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[–] Rhabuko@feddit.de 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

And the moral of the story? Never ever should left-leaning parties enter a coalition with neoliberals. Thank you, FDP, for constantly sabotaging the government and destroying public trust with these actions. And thank you, Friedrich Merz (current leader the conservative CDU opposition party), for being a fucking loser who was losing constantly against other conservative candidates before and now thinks the party should embrace American culture war. So far, it has only helped the AfD, but I'm sure the good old Friedrich has a solid plan.

[–] Ooops@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago

but I’m sure the good old Friedrich has a solid plan.

As we all know that Friedrich Merz has zero morals he obviously has a solid plan to get to power: He still has 2 years to parrot far-right propaganda even more while gradually forgetting his pretended resistence against a CxU-AfD coalition.

[–] Anamana@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The best part is that they put the success of their party below their personal gain.. at least they don't mind becoming less popular it seems

[–] MulhollandDr@lemmy.fmhy.ml 11 points 2 years ago

neoliberalisim has truly ruined this world

[–] 332@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

In any other situation I would ask what the hell you guys are doing over there, but as it stands we have pretty much exactly the same situation here in Sweden.

Pretty scary development honestly. Europe really does not need a populist far-right resurgence right now.

[–] MetaPhrastes@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Same here in Italy. We are ahead of the rest of Europe this time, due to having voted earlier last year. A word of warning: no matter how radical and extremist their claims are, once they take the seats in parliament they don't change anything. Here they came to the paradox of abrogating some laws of the previous government and reintroduce the very same measure with a different name. Only rhetorics will change (and not entirely for the good, unfortunately).

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

We're not going to make it, are we?

[–] sichtbar@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That color switch got me sweating for a second!

[–] Jomn@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Well it's still scary enough.

[–] Eisbef@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Still 7 % FDP ?! WHO ?!

[–] geissi@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

Shareholders

[–] letmesleep@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

It's a mix. For well-off people that party makes sense. And of course there's still quite a few people who buy into the whole "the market will fix it" stuff.

[–] AvoidMyRage@feddit.de -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Me. AMA.

[–] Opafi@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago

Q: Dafuq?

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why do you hate ~~poor~~ non-rich people?

[–] Muetzenman@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

They love Freedomβ„’ and people should work hard to get their place in the social hirachy.

[–] Milan@feddit.nl 1 points 2 years ago

This is terrifying

[–] wldmr@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

Hey, the 30s are coming up, we've got to get a move on.

[–] foni@lemmy.fmhy.ml -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think it is time to talk about immigration, it is the gateway to all this rubbish. Conservatives, liberals, social democrats and socialists believe that not talking about it is a solution, as if putting hundreds of thousands of people with low incomes and different cultures was not going to generate conflicts.

I'm not talking about closing borders, or abandoning them in their countries, or expelling them, I don't know what the solution is, but to ignore the problem, to label as racist anyone who complains or questions the situation. Bold proposals are needed that do not ignore the challenges or we will return

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

as if putting hundreds of thousands of people with low incomes and different cultures was not going to generate conflicts.

Except that the places in Germany that have the highest votes for that piece of shit AfD have the LOWEST amount of immigrants.

[–] foni@lemmy.fmhy.ml -1 points 2 years ago

Well, I'm not from Germany, I don't know the particularities of this case, but I do see that all of Europe, migration is the place where his speech enters the table.Then they put the things of each one, that if the south is lazy, that if Europe keeps the money for health, that if such a region is going to break the country. victimhood and fear they don't only grow where there are real reasons for it and facing the problem instead of despising whoever sees it usually gives better results in the long run

[–] Iceblade02@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Not particularly surprising. I expect that those areas have AfD in leading positions in local governments and implement policies to avoid migration.

[–] sonnenzeit@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No, it's more like most of those regions have low economic opportunities to begin with and that's why not many people migrate there. Conversely especially young and educated people leave those places for greener pastures.

Also note that it also makes sense that areas with higher immigration backgrounds to yield less votes (as a relative proportion of total votes) for the AFD. Simply because people with immigration background would be stupid to vote against their own interests.

[–] Iceblade02@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Insightful, thank you!

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I expect that those areas have AfD in leading positions in local governments

Then you don't know what you are talking about.

[–] Iceblade02@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Okay, then elaborate please, what's the situation like?

I'm just transposing what I know from Swedish politics, given that Germany also has municipal counties with a certain degree of input. In Sweden, the 2018-2022 government tried (and failed, due to legal problems) to overrule municipal councils where the Sweden Democrats were influencing their governing coalitions to refuse to receive asylum seekers, in some cases even paying other municipalities to receive them instead.

Hence that voting districts with high SD voter counts now have fewer migramts than other parts of the country.

[–] Caitlynn@feddit.de -4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Most of the people voting for the AFD are just upset with the current plitical Partys, thus they vote for them in protest

[–] geissi@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago

Most of the people voting for the AFD are just upset with the current political Partys

Maybe some, but several studies have shown, that a good deal of AfD voters are in fact completely on board with their fascist world view.
And those who are not still tolerate it.

Just blaming it all on dissatisfaction without addressing the deep seated bigotry in large parts of the population does not help the discussion and in imho only helps to further legitimize the AfD as a serious alternative.

[–] rockmeat@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

but do they really have to give their protest vote to a party of bigots when there are better options available?

Their problem with current political parties seems to be that they don't address the "problem" that is the presence of brown people in germany "appropriately"

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They already went through all other options.

If Ossis really want to scare the political establishment they should resurrect the SED and demand Article 15 socialisation of all means of production. Don't even have to enter federal politics to do that a majority in a state parliament suffices.