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[–] popemichael@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's best to avoid passwords that include your fetish

If someone gets to know you, they can more easily guess that you're a Hamtaro or Richard Gere fetishist

[–] DeusHircus@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago

Richard Gere... Lemmiwinks... Lemmy... Oh god, we're all Richard Gere fetishists, aren't we?

[–] Madbrad200@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

My absolute favourite is when your password is too long but they don't tell you that, I guess because they weren't expecting it. It only causes a hitch when you later try to login and it doesn't let you ....

[–] Tyler_Zoro@ttrpg.network 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Fun fact: password controls like this have been obsolete since 2020. Standards that guide password management now focus on password length and external security features (like 2FA and robust password encryption for storage) rather than on individual characters in passwords.

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Since 2017 at least; and IIRC years before that; that's just the earliest NIST publication on the subject I could find with a trivial Web search.

https://pages.nist.gov/800-63-3/sp800-63b.html

Verifiers SHOULD NOT impose other composition rules (e.g., requiring mixtures of different character types or prohibiting consecutively repeated characters) for memorized secrets. Verifiers SHOULD NOT require memorized secrets to be changed arbitrarily (e.g., periodically). However, verifiers SHALL force a change if there is evidence of compromise of the authenticator.

"Memorized secrets" means classic passwords, i.e. a one-factor authentication through a shared secret presumed to be known to only the right person.

[–] CoderKat@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

For today's 10,000 who have never seen it, https://xkcd.com/936/ succinctly explains why the whole mixed character types thing isn't favoured.

[–] Rufio@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I wouldn’t say obsolete because that implies it’s not really used anymore. Most websites and apps still use validation not too dissimilar from the OP, even if it goes against the latest best practices.

[–] ArianaGrande@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, the most recent one for me was creating a password at lemmy.world

[–] noodlejetski@geddit.social 1 points 2 years ago

password generator.

[–] unixfreak@feddit.uk -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

If a password input form asks any of these questions, consider the website or service compromised right from the beginning. The reason for this, is that it means they are not storing salted/hashed passwords and your password will be stored as plain text on their servers. There's no reason for any limitations on a password. In the event of a breach, your password will be visible in any database dumped by a hack. Always makes me wince when a password form complains about password length, as it really should not matter. When you hash a password, it will be stored in the database at a specific string length;

Eg; using sha-1 hashing:

pass123 = 5f1e04b7fc8d7067346b77bdbb6a4d4f9f4abace28f15c2b265c710b120393b2
password321 = 8852ab05d5b32f9efd3dcbf69edcfd65464e64c8e5e8310239871e02380e81b3
[–] Pleonasm@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

My favorite password is the string "a", but I never get to use it anywhere due to these ridiculous restrictions 😔 Can you tell me which online services you administer so I can sign up for them and enjoy unfettered use of my favorite password?

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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago

In not that many years password cracking capabilities would surpass any reasonable password length and character combination.

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