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Since countering Aldean's claim the video only contains "real news footage," Destinee Stark has received a wave of hateful messages from defenders of the song.

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[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Stomp on the flag and light it up
Yeah, ya think you're tough.
Well, try that in a small town.
See how far ya make it down the road.
Around here, we take care of our own.
You cross that line, it won't take long.
For you to find out, I recommend you don't.
Try that in a small town.
Got a gun that my granddad gave me

Flag burning is 1st Amendment protected free speech and he is threatening gun violence which is an actual crime.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You got it wrong.

The implied threat to use a firearm comes after that, in regards to trying to take the firearm in question, not in regards to the section quoted.

If you're going to point out hypocrisy, point to the accurate hypocrisy :)

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

See how far you make it down the road because he has a gun... which he will use as a pointing device to politely direct you elsewhere.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Newsflash: unironically listening to modern country like Jason Aldean or any other arena country act, makes you an idiot. It's a bad song, with bad lyrics, with bad music, sung by a millionaire larping as working class. Everything about Country is a lie.

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Modern Pop country can go to hell. Want to listen to country, go look up Bluegrass or Folk Punk.

[–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Or, you know, discover the roots of it all and actually come to recognize that modern music was largely ripped off non-white artists. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[–] Fazoo@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Depends on what you listen to. You'd be hard pressed to claim something like power metal, or folk metal to go further, has much of any roots in Black rock, beyond a long trail of this guy did a thing, which lead to another thing, and several artistic choices later you get the very basic foundation of metal itself.

A lot of those genres base their inspiration in folk music of Nordic and Euro origin, and the fantasy elements being just as local or more Tolkien in nature.

Saying modern music all distills down to ripping off black guitarists of the early 1900s is, at this point, an assinine discussion to hold. There is so much nuance, creativity, and departure from the norm in all the decades to follow.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Agreed. You can go to the artists in the early 1900s and find connections. Even the 1950s and they admitted the took inspiration from non white artists. But today with the internet and everything being accessible I just don't see it.

[–] Fazoo@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Thank the gods for the internet when it comes to music. Mongolian throat singing got more attention then it would of, especially now with the Hu reviving interest after Tengger Cavalry brought it around in the 2000s. So much obscure goodness getting some main stream attention.

[–] SymphonicResonance@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Everything about Country is a lie.

What about Swedish horror country?

[–] Wooky@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

I love this band so much!

[–] kemsat@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You mean people from small towns have an enfeebled ability to tolerate rhetoric that isn’t their own? I’m shocked.

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Enfeebled implies the feeble was applied to them. They were born feeble. It's in the water.

[–] III@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

While true, I feel their born feeble nature is then further cultivated into further feebleness in these small towns.

[–] EmperorHenry@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

There's no such thing as "violent" hate mail. It's words on paper.

[–] sweetviolentblush@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

You're being disingenuous. Violence doesn't have to be a physical threat to be considered violent. If colors, coughing, and arguments can be described as violent, hate mail most certainly can. Especially if it's threatening someones life or livelihood.

US Department Of Justice: "The "crime" in hate crime is often a violent crime, such as assault, murder, arson, vandalism, or threats to commit such crimes. It may also cover conspiring or asking another person to commit such crimes, even if the crime was never carried out."

Merriam Webster's definition of violent:

  • 1b: extremely powerful or forceful and capable of causing damage (e.g. violent coughing)
  • 4a: notably forceful, furious, or vehement (e.g. violent argument, a violent denunciation)
  • 4b: extreme, intense (e.g. violent pain, violent colors)
[–] EmperorHenry@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You’re being disingenuous. Violence doesn’t have to be a physical threat to be considered violence.

Words aren't violence. And threats are already illegal.

[–] sweetviolentblush@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Words aren’t violence.

Do you need me to post the definition of argument and denunciation too? I mean it's right there. In the definition I posted. Maybe you personally believe words can't be violent, but that doesn't change that they can be.

[–] Caradoc879@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No point debating dumbasses that try to "gotcha" about semantics. Like you said, disingenuous. Troll. Edgelord maybe. Hopefully he's not actually this stupid.

It's just such a myopically ignorant thing to say. According to mental health professionals the effects of verbal abuse can cause a slew of issues both mental and physical, and we know bullying can lead to suicides, swatting people is literally using your words to invoke violence. Three ways words can be violent just off the top of my head. Words can absolutely cause violence, what a shitty take.

[–] MinusPi@pawb.social 1 points 2 years ago

And in person death threats are just spoken words. They're both dangerous and unacceptable.