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De-federate from instances with loli (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 2 years ago by InfiniteVariables@sh.itjust.works to c/main@sh.itjust.works

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Can we get a consensus on whether our community should de-federate with servers that host loli? I personally think we should block them, and if that ends up not being the consensus here then I'll probably sign up on another server. I hope we can all agree to set that boundary though because I like it here and it seems otherwise pretty cool.

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[–] pokexpert30@lemmy.pussthecat.org 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Am really confused

How do you get unsuscribed instances on your feed?

[–] B4tid0@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you are browsing by All then you see them all

I think , i haven't tried but I have seen it mentioned around. That we can block communities , so maybe that's something.

[–] pokexpert30@lemmy.pussthecat.org 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Since i'm using a private instance, i don't see other instances until i explicitly visit them, i believe.

[–] ShadowAether@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Yes, users only see communities from other instances on all that another user from their own instance has subscribed too (or I suppose that they subscribed to but usually people aren't suprised about that)

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[–] funde@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago

shota not mentioned simp post

[–] _uc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

Absolutely block instances hosting illegal content - the way federation works means copies / caches of content can end up on this server? Or even if that’s not how lemmy does it, it risks using this server to facilitate the spread of something incredibly harmful & damaging.

As far as I’m concerned there’s no argument for allowing / normalising content produced which quite literally ruins peoples lives.

Edit: Even stuff that’s purely cartoonish in nature for me is just grim, and I don’t want to be a part of a community which supports it.

Edit2: If a server can block a specific community posting CSAM then maybe that's a better solution than blocking the underlying infrastructure. If that's not possible, I think defederation is the only real way to deal it, as frustrating as that would be for legitimate users.

[–] Burger@burggit.moe 4 points 2 years ago

That's not how it works. Instances don't cache images from other instances. If you hover your mouse over an image you can clearly see the site it's hosted on is in fact not originating from the instance you're browsing on. It works like Pleroma, Akkoma, Rebased, and other Pleroma forks.

IANAL, but I believe you can't be held liable for hosting links to other images on a site, regardless if they're embedded through the website's UI. They're not stored there, afterall. The client is rendering them.

All that gets cached, I believe, is the text and users from remote instances. And by cached, I mean stored in the postgres DB.

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[–] Lighting@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

How is "federation" defined for lemmy. Is it like idp federation where your username/password is shared across instances - or does it mean something related to sharing communities?

[–] nictophilia@fedia.io 1 points 2 years ago

Another vote for blocking but not de-federating. De-federating is a nuclear option with a lot of collateral damage, and it's pretty easy nowadays to just start screaming "pedophile" if your goal is to cause collateral damage. I'm worried that if instances start defederating in a knee-jerk reaction, it will be weaponized.

Just block it.

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